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Aaron FTC

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Shadesidhe said :
J4ron said :
No, was wondering why the 7 day wait is staying is all, as that is why we're all against this poo.

Not everyone is against it, J4ron. Just saying you are against it and want it removed after it is already in place is not helpful. Looking for ways to improve it are.

I think everyone in the CLF knows you don't like it, are against it and will disrespect just about anyone that is for it, including JMods.

As my mother used to say, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Please stop. Look for something good in it, or look for proposals that will help you and leave out the negativity.

Lmao +1.


The thread has been a pretty great source of discussion and feedback so far,
Aside from the Constant repeats and quotes of a certain viewpoint.


I am all for the 1 week probation between clans,
No issue there.

But I also would not mind there being an easier way for people to Join clans,
In a "probational" sense, Like said earlier.

Either way it does not greatly impact my clan,
But a Confirmation weather the ability to instantly join clans after being kicked
is supposed to be there or not, would be appreciated =P


Onward with the discussion my fellow CLFers? :P
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30-Jan-2015 17:27:46

AoDude

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Mod Moltare: I found your post on page 3 very helpful. Just want to clarify a couple things before I continue reading the rest and formulating my ideas.

You are talking about scope in your post. And it seems to me the player data is basically a
global scope
; those variables can be checked
anywhere
under any condition. Where the clan data is a more
limited scope
and can only be checked in
some places
.

So am I right to think you took the probation variable from the
clan data
, and moved it to the
player data
?
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30-Jan-2015 17:32:36

Scret
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PantsuOnHead said :
Thanks again Mod Moltare. You don't have to be sorry, I much more appreciate being told that my idea isn't possible because of X, Y or Z rather than just "this is not technically feasible".

I'll think over some more ideas.

Mine and your ideas are essentially the same (if i read yours correctly) only difference is that mine creates a new rank into which all of this can be changed to whatever it needs to be.

Now im not sure if creating a new rank for specific jobs work but id like to ask that to the Mods

My thinking is that if you create this rank its controlled by the system rather than by the clan but still allow people to join (sort of like a guest but actually requires an invite) then you can put all the necessary restrictions on the rank instead of actually specific people.
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30-Jan-2015 17:40:40 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2015 17:44:35 by Scret

AoDude

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Scret said :
PantsuOnHead said :
Thanks again Mod Moltare. You don't have to be sorry, I much more appreciate being told that my idea isn't possible because of X, Y or Z rather than just "this is not technically feasible".

I'll think over some more ideas.

Mine and your ideas are essentially the same (if i read yours correctly) only difference is that mine creates a new rank into which all of this can be changed to whatever it needs to be.

Now im not sure if creating a new rank for specific jobs work but id like to ask that to the Mods

If what I am understanding is correct, in my earlier post, they should have the same issue with both ideas because the rank variable would exist in the clan data which is a limited scope. Meaning they can't check that variable without making huge work-arounds, which would break more stuff than fix the problem.
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30-Jan-2015 17:45:16 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2015 17:47:55 by AoDude

Tiber

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Mod Moltare said :
if we do it that way our technical director will pay our team a visit and decapitate all of us
I didn't know Jagex went around beheading staff :O I suppose its a decent motivator though :P

Thanks for your response, it's good to not just hear 'technical limitations', much easier to handle the idea rejection this way :P
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30-Jan-2015 17:47:18

SofaKing

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What if

There were a approved guest list, opposite of the ban list, and when you invite someone to the clan who is on cooldown they would join the approved guest list if they accepted the invite, instead of the clan. They would then be auto-joined into clan chat with a smiley rank as an approved guest. You could check their days left of cooldown by being on their world and clicking their name within the approved guest tab. (Like checking clanmates resourses). Finally, they would auto-join the clan once their cooldown ends, like a que, if they feel so inclined to join?

These approved guests would have a smiley rank in clanchat( or similar icon), so moderators can see they are approved to be in the chat. The smiley guest rank would be a fast way for leadership to assume they are waiting for cooldown/invite. Normal guests would not have guest rank. You could also add people to the approved guest list manually just like we do on the ban list. There could be an option to only allow approved guests into the chat and not allow normal guests, too.

This would pretty much add a "probationary member rank" but they are technically just guests. I think that most clans would view these guests the same as they did new members who couldn't use the citadel yet.

Would this not solve most issues? Would this be possible to do?

30-Jan-2015 17:56:46 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2015 19:49:44 by SofaKing

Ryanc360
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Tiber said :
Mod Moltare said :
if we do it that way our technical director will pay our team a visit and decapitate all of us
I didn't know Jagex went around beheading staff :O I suppose its a decent motivator though :P

Thanks for your response, it's good to not just hear 'technical limitations', much easier to handle the idea rejection this way :P

I mean they are in the UK. The act of beheading was standard practice back in the medieval times, and Jagex does run Runescape...

30-Jan-2015 17:58:41

Bresmine
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I still like the idea of color-coding guests. And it doesn't necessarily have to be based primarily around the cooldown. What if the name changed colors based on the position they were in? Example:

ORANGE:
Already in another clan.
YELLOW:
Not in a clan, but on cooldown.
WHITE:
Not in a clan, not on cooldown.

There could even be a color designated for a clan whitelist, assuming one could be implemented.

The colors don't need to be exactly the above, but this might help clarify some of the confusion around guests and where they stand, since we cannot see their cooldown period at all at the moment. It doesn't fix everything, of course. But it at least helps with visibility.
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30-Jan-2015 21:27:26 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2015 21:27:50 by Bresmine

Colifin
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Esploratore said :
Here's my idea:

Create a waiting list for those on cool down that automatically adds the prospective clan member who wants to join to the clan as a recruit when they're eligible. A delayed invite of sorts. Have a game message when they log in notifying them they are a member of x clan. Possibly add them into the clan chat as well the first time. (We've had new recruits who don't understand how to join the clan chat at first).

If the list could have a timer to let our clan admins know how much longer they have in cool down, even better.
Hm, and have them auto-join as a guest in the chat as long as they're queued to join that clan?

While not the optimal solution, this could work...

It could also be used to bypass clans that don't have guesting enabled. If they're set to auto-join your clan, that would override the "no guesting" option.
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30-Jan-2015 22:35:41 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2015 22:43:07 by Colifin

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