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WTFmybacon
Oct Member 2010

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From everything that I have read on the old thread, you are welcome to add me to the
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Instead of using a tool like this that tells you exactly what to do (which is obviously cheating in my eyes), people should instead just use the wiki, which tells you how you can do it, if they need help with a clue puzzle.
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01-Sep-2021 23:13:45 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2021 23:14:23 by WTFmybacon

Bradinat0r
Feb Member 2022

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I just had yet again another person to tell me to use Alt1. It angers me to know people use this program to cheat through knots and puzzles. IT IS CHEATING. No, I wont use it and I won't ever tell someone else to. I spend a good bit of time solving puzzles and knots legitimately while alot of players use ALT1. It should be a ban worthy offense to use Alt1. Cmon, think about it as using a cheat sheet to ace a test. It's not allowed in a test setting so why should it be any different in this scenario. To allow Alt1 is to condone the use of cheating. Please allow me this freedom of expressing my opinion freely. I'm so sick of people throwing the thought of using alt1 at me let alone the thought of people speed running clues as i sit on and solve knots and puzzles with my brain. It takes me a good bit of time to do these so it angers me. Some form of action needs to take place on this matter cause its completely unfair and just plain wrong. It degrades my experience to think something like this exists and has been used for quite some time without any consequence.

01-Sep-2021 23:36:59

Daddy Roshi
Jan Member 2018

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U can use alt1 for other things as well not just the puzzle solver if u dont wanna use it that's fine but as far as jagex is concerned at the moment its not a bannable offence to use it ehich may change in the future if it gets something added to it that that makes it bannable to use

As far as I care i dont see it as cheating i use alt1 but i dont use the puzzle solver as i dont need it theres still plenty of other uses that i do like though
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02-Sep-2021 01:43:32

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

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Afaik Jagex said they're unable to detect whether somebody is using Alt-1 or not. And comparing it with runelite in OS it's certainly just something providing convenience, rather than basically being almost an requirement to properly play the game. They even started to adapt those features in their official client in a 1:1 basis - albeit they should be able to do better implementations for those lacking features.

What my issue in here is, that Jagex has acknowledged players are using this tool - and made slider clues significantly more awful to do (solvable from 40-esque steps to up to 160 with an optimal solution) as a consequence - basically punishing everybody not using it so far - it's not like sliders were fun or something before that change. Dito with the bigger celtic knots probably.

In terms of clues I do not really see an issue though - if the tool was forbidden players basically would solve their clues again with the help of the wiki. That takes a bit more of effort, but it literally would have the same effect. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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02-Sep-2021 05:20:05 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2021 05:22:32 by Rikornak

SlR
Nov Member 2020

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@ WTFmybacon - Done. I agree, the Wiki and Youtube offer all the help anyone needs.
@ Kings Abbot - I'll keep you in neutral but put a green plus sign next to your name :)

@ Rikornak - "What my issue in here is, that Jagex has acknowledged players are using this tool - and made slider clues significantly more awful to do (solvable from 40-esque steps to up to 160 with an optimal solution) as a consequence - basically punishing everybody not using it so far" - I wasn't aware of this, thank-you for bringing it up! Bob says:
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02-Sep-2021 11:36:33 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2021 11:47:25 by SlR

Bradinat0r
Feb Member 2022

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They endorse the use of it and i'm sure mods probably use it so now it all makes sense....if they don't care to do anything about it then it practically forces people to follow suit and use it too. Therefore, you add that "use at your own risk" to the whole runescape community. It shouldn't even be a debate as to rather this should be forbidden. Also, to say they can't detect it is a convenient excuse in my opinion. You can even view how long it takes people to complete each clue scroll right here in the forums and i'm sure elsewhere. Look how long it takes me to do it the legit way and compare it to alt1 users....If they just want to enable the use of it then why should I have to suffer to not use it. Honestly, I'm considering it now myself because why should I have to suffer and spend more time to do clues while mods allow Alt1. Alot of other games forbid the use of 3rd party programs that allow you to basically cheese your way through content. People have already took advantage with alt1 for years so the damage is irreversible so I guess their stance on this wont ever change.

02-Sep-2021 18:18:33

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