RuneScape Forum Archive | F2P Extensions

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I was considering that dragon slayer gloves should be the final reward after attaining slayer level 20 or 15. Dragons are higher, starting at 64 with the green variant. Especially some cave crawlers are higher-level than green dragons. I would suggest adding a buffer and a nice reward for f2p. Good idea on dragon slayer gloves. I guess the Dragon Slayer glove should be upgradeable instead degrading to dust will go up to tier 55 or 60. I'm open to the gloves being unlocked at 20 Slayer, to give F2P a meaningful unlock. Degrading to dust should definitely be changed. One question is whether they should still require upkeep or just be permanent.

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I guess FOG Rewards needs a revamp to entice players to play the minigame. I recently had some ideas for improving Stealing Creation along with Fist of Guthix. The ideas include making Stealing Creation F2P and solo playable and merging the rewards with Fist of Guthix. Together these would allow free players to earn FoG rewards by soloing Stealing Creation. Among other benefits, that would eliminate the hurdle of not having enough players for Fist of Guthix. Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

02-Oct-2023 09:36:48

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I guess if we have Tier 60 equipment, then corrupt dragon equipment should be upgraded to Tier 65. Otherwise, it would serve no purpose but to have dead content overtaken by orikalkum and regular dragon equipment.

The corrupt dragon equipment will have more power but it will be disintegrate into dust after one hour. I've been reevaluating giving T60 to F2P. While I still think it can be done as a late extension, lower-level updates with broader impact would take priority. Corrupt Ranged and Magic gear could be added, though. Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

02-Oct-2023 09:58:09

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Queen Black Dragon without Tier 60 weapons would be overkill even with a combat upgrade. I would suggest a new boss for combat levels around 300 to 400.

Since KBD dropped the draconic visage in f2p, according to the RS wiki, dragon-fire shields are tier 70, and dragon banes are tier 80. I guess use draconic visage to create a new weapons called the dragon gravite weaponry. Dragon gravite weaponry, including magic and range weapons, will have a 10 to 15% advantage in dealing more damage to dragons. The dragon gravite weapon will have less bonus advantage than the dragon banite weapon (which is 25% extra). This would make gravitational weapons useful for killing dragons.

I would suggest dragon rune weaponry, but rune dragons are monsters and could be confusing to mix up. You've convinced me that QBD is probably out of the question. I've downgraded her to an honourable mention.

Dungeoneering weapons on the other hand certainly could use a polish. One QoL idea is for lower-level equipment to directly upgrade into higher versions, to prevent wasting tokens. This would affect the Prayer and combat necklaces primarily but could also be implemented for gravite weapons (upgrading to chaotic weapons). With that small tweak, there would be no reason to avoid buying gravite weapons. Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

02-Oct-2023 10:06:35

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Update 02/10/23

Organisation
-Added link for each entry in the table of contents
-Added the following at the bottom of each post:
* Post number
* Link to table of contents
-Organised suggestions into a dinosaur shape ( Front , Middle , and Tail )
-Added Priority List section

Suggestions
-Specified “Optional” suggestions
* These are relevant but not critical to the impact of the extensions
* May be controversial or overpowered
-Downgraded Queen Black Dragon to an honourable mention, in response to feedback

Proposed F2P access the following:

Asgarnia

Farming Extension
-New Farming crops
* Improvements to cheesecakes

Hunter Extension
-Hunter urns
-Butterfly netting
-Ring of metamorphosis

Taverley Dungeon, Part 2
-Both Dungeoneering resource dungeons in Taverley Dungeon

Varrock & Wilderness
-Proposed Stealing Creation minigame rebalance
-Temporarily removed detailed description of Wizards' Tower rewards rebalance, due to limited space Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

02-Oct-2023 10:32:43 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 01:50:28 by Seasons Past

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Wizards' Tower Refresh ( post 5 )

Rune Essence Mine
1. When mining rune essence, players would receive large chunks instead of individual pieces.
2. Players would place the larger rocks into a mechanical device at the Rune Essence Mine. The machine would process each large essence rock into multiple smaller pieces suitable for Runecrafting, automatically depositing them into a chute for collection.
3. When finished, players would left-click the chute to teleport the essence to their bank.

Rewards
-Runespan points and Runecrafting Guild tokens converted into a single currency
-All rewards moved into a single shop and costs rebalanced as appropriate

Wicked robes:
* Each piece of the set unlocked permanently and reclaimed freely if lost
* Recolour options unlocked permanently and changed freely once unlocked
* Wicked hood's cost reduced to “free” and Runecrafting guild teleport more accurately renamed to Wizards' Tower teleport

Runic staves:
* Unlocked permanently and reclaimed freely if lost
* Standard variant made F2P
* Standard and greater variants unlocked as upgrades from the lesser variant
* Ability to configure to any unlocked variant, to accommodate former members who had obtained the greater variant
* Duplicate purchases no longer possible and existing multiples refunded

Miscellaneous:
* Runecrafting altar teleport tablets made equipable in the pocket slot and also refundable
* Talisman staves would be converted into cosmetic overrides, each variant unlocked as a separate recolour option. Players would have to meet the requirements for the respective Runecrafting altar in order to unlock its recolour option
* Runecrafting gloves from the Fist of Guthix minigame would instead be earned from the Wizards’ Tower Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

04-Oct-2023 20:45:13 - Last edited on 19-Nov-2023 21:04:29 by Seasons Past

Dec

2023

Noctis King

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Since it is about F2P extensions, let's talk about monsters or battleable NPCs. These are what F2P currently has for high-level (non-boss) monsters starting at combat level 60.

Melee Weakness NPC

1. Cyclops (Level 68)
2. Guard Bandit (Level 70)
3. Cyclossus (Level 89)
3. Hellhound (Level 92, 105)
4. Deadly Red Spider (Level 95)

Magic Weakness NPC

1. Ankou (Levels 60, 61, 63)
2. Shades (Level 61)
3. Cockroach Soldier (Level 70)
4. Ankou (Elite) (Level 72)
5. Mountain Troll (Level 75)
6. Stick {troll} (Level 85)
7. Rock {troll} (Level 88)

Range Weakness NPC

1. Green Dragon (Level 63)
2. Lesser Demon (Level 70)
3. Blue Dragon (Level 74)
4. Greater Demon (Level 82)
5. Red Dragon (Level 84)
6. Greater Demon (Elite) (Level 92)

No Weakness NPC

1. Various Revenants
2. Bandit Brawler (Level 118)
3. Black Heather, Donny the Lad, and Speedy Keith (Level 138)

As the list shows, ignoring Bandit Camp Monsters, Warrior Guild Cyclops, and Revenants, there is a lower number of mid-high monsters.

Please let me know if I missed any monsters. I will update the list for current ( which above in the same post) or considered addition (post below) to F2P.

04-Oct-2023 23:21:17 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2023 20:50:23 by Noctis King

Dec

2023

Noctis King

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Now let's include the F2P extension that will add considered monsters for levels 60 and above.

Lumbridge Swamp Caves:

1. Cave Crawler (Level 74)

{Melee Weakness}

: Likely with Slayer Extension

Travelley Dungeon:

1. Magic Axe (Level 74)

{Magic Weakness}

: Most Likely
2. Black Demon (Level 98)

{Range Weakness}

: Probable to Likely
3. Black Dragon (Level 100)

{Range Weakness}

: Unlikely Debatable?

Edgeville Dungeon:

1. Earth Warrior (Level 78)

{Magic Weakness}

: Probable with Agility Extension
2. Earth Warrior (Elite) (Level 88)

{Magic Weakness}

: See Above

Wilderness:
1. Black Demon (Level 112)

{Range Weakness}

: Probable to Likely

Brimhaven
1. Jungle Spider (Level 86)

{Melee Weakness}

: Likely with Heroes Quest

Zanaris
1. Otherworldly Being (Level 63)

{Range Weakness}

: Probable to Likely

Kalphite Hive:
1. Kalphite Soldier (Level 65)

{Magic Weakness}

: Possible
2. Kalphite Guardian (Level 72)

{Magic Weakness}

: Possible

04-Oct-2023 23:42:49 - Last edited on 10-Nov-2023 18:08:05 by Noctis King

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Now let's include the F2P extension that will add considered monsters for levels 60 and above.

Lumbridge Swamp Caves:

1. Cave Crawler (Level 74) {Melee Weakness}: Likely with Slayer Extension

Travelley Dungeon:

1. Magic Axe (Level 74) {Magic Weakness}: Likely
2. Black Demon (Level 98) {Range Weakness}: Probable
3. Black Dragon (Level 100) {Range Weakness}: Unlikely Debatable?

Edgeville Dungeon:

1. Earth Warrior (Level 78) {Magic Weakness}: Probable with Agility Extension
Taverley Dungeon:

1. Magic Axe
-Agreed that they’re likely to become F2P
-Should be given more appealing loot, as currently they don’t seem to have much of a drop table
2. Black Demon
-Also found in the restricted part of Edgeville Dungeon
-Would be suitable as a high-end challenge
-Would become the only free monster to drop infernal ashes; infernal urns could be made F2P
3. Black Dragon
-Stronger than black demons only by 2 Magic levels (72 vs. 70)
-Draconic visage drop could stay P2P
-Guaranteed drop of black dragonhide would be awkward given that it can't be used on F2P

Interesting that cave crawlers would be the only new upper-range monster with a Melee weakness, as hellhounds and deadly red spiders are already F2P. Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

05-Oct-2023 17:24:30 - Last edited on 06-Oct-2023 16:29:51 by Seasons Past

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Daemonheim Rewards
( post 7 )

General
-All non-degrading item rewards reclaimed freely if lost

Rewards

F2P access to the following:
-Split dragontooth necklace
-Scrolls of Daemonheim, gathering, and renewal

Necklaces
-Cumulative costs for necklaces of the same type:
* Brawler’s jab / hook / knockout
* Farsight quick shot / snap shot / sniper
* Arcane pulse / blast / stream
* Twisted bird skull / Split dragontooth / Demon horn

Gravite Equipment
-A gravite focus would be used to upgrade standard T50 weapons into T55 gravite counterparts, as follows:
* Rune dagger/spear/sword - gravite rapier
* Rune battleaxe/longsword - gravite longsword
* Rune 2h sword - gravite 2h sword
* Rune warhammer - gravite hammer (new)
* Magic shortbow - gravite chargebow
* Rune knife - gravite knife
* Rune crossbow - gravite crossbow (new; would use charges rather than ammunition)
* Mystic wand - gravite wand
* Mystic orb - gravite orb
-Gravite weapons would revert to a gravite focus after running out of charges
* Removing the focus from a gravite weapon would retain its charges while destroying the original weapon

Chaotic Equipment (P2P)
-Cumulative discount with repeated purchases (number of purchases...% discount):
* 1st purchase...0%
* 2nd purchase...50%
* 3rd purchase...75%
* 4th purchase...85%
* 5th purchase...90% Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

05-Oct-2023 18:28:10 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 01:26:44 by Seasons Past

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Update 05/10/23

Organisation
-Moved F2P access to teak trees and woodbox to the Entrana extension (post 2)
-Moved the following extensions from Middle to Tail sections:
* Taverley Dungeon, Part 2 ( Asgarnia , post 4)
* Edgeville Dungeon: Into the Wilderness ( Varrock & Wilderness , post 8)
-Removed honourable mentions section

Proposed F2P access to the following:

Jewellery
* Amulet of farming (post 2)
* Headhunter’s sacrifice and headhunter’s thrill (post 5)
* Ring of life (post 6)
* Ring of forging and Digsite pendant (post 7)
* Phoenix necklace and Forinthry bracelet (post 8)

Asgarnia
-Imp beads used for magic potions merged into one item (not my original suggestion; post 3)
-Pest Control minigame improvements (post 4):
* Removal of player count requirements
* Combat difficulty scaled with players

Lumbridge & Draynor
-Removal of player count requirements for The Great Orb Project minigame (post 5)
-Carapace dropped from the following creatures (post 5):
* Flesh crawler
* Cave bug
-Wizards’ Tower rewards improvements (post 35)

Varrock & Wilderness
-Quests (post 7):
* Rag and Bone Man
* All Fired Up
-Area Tasks (post 8):
* Easy Wilderness
* Easy Daemonheim
-Dungeoneering rewards improvements (post 39) Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

05-Oct-2023 18:48:01 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 02:24:31 by Seasons Past

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