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B2up

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Tree Village said :
B2up said :
PanndaBearr said :
Voting no to ge on both of my accounts, I've explained in depth on many threads throughout the last couple of weeks why so I won't go into detail. If you're a regular in the OSRS general forums you've probably read my posts.

The ge takes away the value in having items when you need them. It reduces the advantage of knowing how to obtain items, the advantage of using skills/stats to obtain obscure items, and the advantage of being knowledgeable and efficient as a whole. It makes several skills; buy from ge> train skill> sell to ge, something I wouldn't want to see at all. Simply put, the ge makes the game easy and takes away advantages from those who are sufficient with the current system.

Many of the pro ge arguments are flawed as well. For one, merchanting will be easier than ever, allowing people like myself who seldomly trade the ability to make money merchanting while sleeping and playing. Also, whether or not an update is considered "old school" should have nothing to do with when it came into the game. The fact that it came out in 2007 is irrelevant. The update itself should be debated not the year it came out in.

Just my reasons, and hopefully the ge will stay out.


Well said.

The nostalgic sandbox feel that RS once had, will again be gone.

I remember Jagex saying at the beginning in an interview on YT (i've been looking for the video the past 3 days and cannot find it though), they wouldn't implement this.

Unfortunately, I see this passing - I'm unsubscribing already.
**** RS3 v.2 with **** graphics.

R.I.P. Runescape - We'll miss you <3


It was already gone. long time ago bud.


Nah "bud", it's these *****ies that get frustrated with the slower pace that are going to ruin it.

09-Jan-2015 23:55:15

FaTalyWound

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No one is a "noob" for expressing there opinion on a matter up for discussion, hence the reason there is a poll. I personally see no reason the GE should not be introduced as it will undoubtedly bring more members to the old school runescape community and fix many of the problems with the current trade system. If you are not educated enough to discuss the issue then maybe it would be better to say nothing at all :)

09-Jan-2015 23:58:51

FaTalyWound

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Mr Switch said :
TokHaar said :
Shot Kennedy said :
No! We want trading to remain a PERSONAL procedure.


"Selling SS"
"Selling SS"
"Selling SS"
"Ty"
"Thx"


"I'll buy your BCP for 50k under your listed price?"
"No sorry"
"**** you"


"Selling AGS"
"My friend in cammy will buy, here take this tab"


Yeah I'm over the whole "player interaction" thing.

^This. And I lol'd


hilarious and completely true

10-Jan-2015 00:01:04

Z A E L

Z A E L

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Stop making this game easier and easier. Next thing you know each skill will be 300k xp/hr. Firemaking might become afkable and then it will really be a useless skill.


What I suggest if a GE does come out, make it so you can only sell 2-3 items at a time. When you put 6 open spots, you make it so easy for people to merc*. If you change that to 2-3, it'll bottleneck how much items can actually be sold at once.


I think the trading post can be greatly improved. First, make it so that the price is being tracked. The cheaper items are always bought off leaving the most expensive items shown, just unnecessarily making the prices inconsistent with Zybez.

Second, only show the offers of people with their private chat on. I don't know how many times I've tried to buy something and it's just people with their private chat off (to keep the prices stable I'm assuming).

There are other suggestions that other people have that :P

10-Jan-2015 00:03:18

FaTalyWound

FaTalyWound

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B2up said :
Tree Village said :
B2up said :
PanndaBearr said :
Voting no to ge on both of my accounts, I've explained in depth on many threads throughout the last couple of weeks why so I won't go into detail. If you're a regular in the OSRS general forums you've probably read my posts.

The ge takes away the value in having items when you need them. It reduces the advantage of knowing how to obtain items, the advantage of using skills/stats to obtain obscure items, and the advantage of being knowledgeable and efficient as a whole. It makes several skills; buy from ge> train skill> sell to ge, something I wouldn't want to see at all. Simply put, the ge makes the game easy and takes away advantages from those who are sufficient with the current system.

Many of the pro ge arguments are flawed as well. For one, merchanting will be easier than ever, allowing people like myself who seldomly trade the ability to make money merchanting while sleeping and playing. Also, whether or not an update is considered "old school" should have nothing to do with when it came into the game. The fact that it came out in 2007 is irrelevant. The update itself should be debated not the year it came out in.

Just my reasons, and hopefully the ge will stay out.


Well said.

The nostalgic sandbox feel that RS once had, will again be gone.

I remember Jagex saying at the beginning in an interview on YT (i've been looking for the video the past 3 days and cannot find it though), they wouldn't implement this.

Unfortunately, I see this passing - I'm unsubscribing already.
**** RS3 v.2 with **** graphics.

R.I.P. Runescape - We'll miss you <3


It was already gone. long time ago bud.


Nah "bud", it's these *****ies that get frustrated with the slower pace that are going to ruin it.




The GE will NOT destroy OSR. It might even help the player base.

10-Jan-2015 00:06:50

Diggydug1

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FaTalyWound said :
No one is a "noob" for expressing there opinion on a matter up for discussion, hence the reason there is a poll. I personally see no reason the GE should not be introduced as it will undoubtedly bring more members to the old school runescape community and fix many of the problems with the current trade system. If you are not educated enough to discuss the issue then maybe it would be better to say nothing at all :)


You contributed nothing to the GE argument and tell people not to contribute unless they're educated. Cool

I don't care how long someone has played but it sure helps if someone has seen the before/after regarding the GE, as they have a variable to go off of. So it's not irrelevant but I like seeing people supply reasons. Actual reasons.

I haven't seen any actual "pros" supplied from the Pro-GE side besides "Makes it easier". It's often a "YES WE MUST HAVE THIS FINALLY!" Just spread out to fill up a paragraph.


EDIT: Your post above is the perfect illustration. Expand and discuss.

10-Jan-2015 00:09:33 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2015 00:10:59 by Diggydug1

Tito Jenkins

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Lars III said :
Old School means a an old school Runescape. The grand exchange was an addition to the game that remains a prominent part of RS3. Having to seek other players out in order to exchange items is an integral part of OSRS. Adding the grand exchange would make it far too modern and take away from the innocence that was Runescape in 2007. I vote a strong NO and urge others to do the same


Like going and sitting in W1 Varrock west, wow lots of seeking.

10-Jan-2015 00:16:07

FaTalyWound

FaTalyWound

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Z A E L said :
Stop making this game easier and easier. Next thing you know each skill will be 300k xp/hr. Firemaking might become afkable and then it will really be a useless skill.


What I suggest if a GE does come out, make it so you can only sell 2-3 items at a time. When you put 6 open spots, you make it so easy for people to merc*. If you change that to 2-3, it'll bottleneck how much items can actually be sold at once.


I think the trading post can be greatly improved. First, make it so that the price is being tracked. The cheaper items are always bought off leaving the most expensive items shown, just unnecessarily making the prices inconsistent with Zybez.

Second, only show the offers of people with their private chat on. I don't know how many times I've tried to buy something and it's just people with their private chat off (to keep the prices stable I'm assuming).

There are other suggestions that other people have that :P


If you "bottleneck" the number of slots available to buy and sell you are hurting everyone as players who may wish to offer up some of their unused items will be unable to if they are currently trying to buy other items. The merchers who you are trying to restrain will be mostly unaffected because they are only focusing on certain items.

The GE does not make the game easier, it makes it more enjoyable. The time put into skilling and combat are still required. The primary draw of the game should be player interaction, questing, PvP, skilling, bossing, etc...and not the endless cycle of standing in a bank spamming "buying swordies 250 each-FatalyWound" until someone bites. The GE helps to cut out the boring and time consuming inbetween and allows players to get back into action faster. How can this be a bad thing?

Does it really make sense to keep content out of the game for nostalgic reasons that hurt gameplay?

10-Jan-2015 00:18:55

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