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FaTalyWound

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Tito Jenkins said :
Lars III said :
Old School means a an old school Runescape. The grand exchange was an addition to the game that remains a prominent part of RS3. Having to seek other players out in order to exchange items is an integral part of OSRS. Adding the grand exchange would make it far too modern and take away from the innocence that was Runescape in 2007. I vote a strong NO and urge others to do the same


Like going and sitting in W1 Varrock west, wow lots of seeking.


Oh and soooooo much player interaction!!!

"Selling lobbys 200each-Yomamma95"
-see trade request
-enter trade screen
-50k offered up
-offer correct amount of lobsters
"thx-yomamma95"
"ty-GEhater01"

10-Jan-2015 00:22:58

Dragonfaija
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VOTE FOR G.E.


Pros / Arguments in Favor of G.E:

-You can buy / sell items in small portions and don't have to gather a lot of, for example, yew logs, to sell them, because people tend to buy / sell in bigger quantities.

-You don't have to spend your playtime hopping worlds and standing at banks messaging people who have private on friends or just aren't responding because they're doing something else at the moment. The same goes other way around of course.

-Prices will be determined by demand and supply.

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Cons / arguments against G.E :

-"The OSRS community will lose player interaction?" A: Messaging someone saying I'll buy your (item) and saying Ty after the trade doesn't seem like much player interaction to me. Besides, the playerbase was interactive in other ways than trading in 2007-2008 anyways when there was G.E, so this isn't really an argument.

-"Game will be too easy if G.E is introduced to OSRS." A: If making the game more enjoyable by making the trade system easier and better makes the game "easier" then so be it. No one likes to spend their time buying items for quests or skills they want to level for hours with no results. It doesn't really make the game easier, it merely gives you the chance to progress onto the next thing faster when you can sell / buy the stuff you want quicker.

-"It's called old school / 2007scape , go play RS3 if you want G.E!!!" A: Old school means the old combat system RuneScape**** had it's peaks before the EoC when G.E was involved. "2007scape", just because the version of the game was from 2007 doesn't mean it's 2007scape, that's just the one they had left in the archives, many people just want the RS the way it was before EoC. And Grand Exchange was released in 2007 anyway, so this is barely an argument.

-"There will be merchant bots" A: There are merc* bots already in OSRS standing in the banks for hours on*

*****

**;DR: YES G.E

10-Jan-2015 00:24:57

fgsfds

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Mod Ronan said :
In order to combat manipulation there will be limits on the rate at which you can buy different types of items. These limits will be generous and will likely not interrupt any day-to-day trading that you are doing but they will go a long way in making sure that items are not bought out in bulk.


Does our version of the GE really need buy limits that any serious players will bypass with legal multi-logging?

10-Jan-2015 00:26:04

Spel Casta

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The GE does not make the game easier, it makes it more enjoyable. The time put into skilling and combat are still required. The primary draw of the game should be player interaction , questing, PvP, skilling, bossing, etc... and not the endless cycle of standing in a bank spamming "buying swordies 250 each-FatalyWound" until someone bites. The GE helps to cut out the boring and time consuming inbetween and allows players to get back into action faster. How can this be a bad thing?


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Skilling and combat are required, but are brought about much quicker and at a detriment to the people that bother to collect things for others to use, because prices will go down.

Player Interaction will go right the **** down because you don't have to do **** but sit in the GE to buy and sell ****. The only "interaction" will be showing off and bankstanding.

Yeah, now we can have the endless cycle of sitting in G.E. waiting for your crap to buy/sell without so much as a spoken word or any effort put forth!

It's been explained time and time again in this very thread why G.E. is a bad thing for the game. Please, for the sake of all of us, read.

10-Jan-2015 00:27:02

Dragonfaija
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Oh and I forgot, the people saying that the trading system is fine as it is now, then why do people (and have from the beginning of OSRS pretty much) have to use a 3rd party website for trading, such as Zybez.

Clearly we need a better trading system.

10-Jan-2015 00:29:09

FaTalyWound

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Diggydug1 said :
FaTalyWound said :
No one is a "noob" for expressing there opinion on a matter up for discussion, hence the reason there is a poll. I personally see no reason the GE should not be introduced as it will undoubtedly bring more members to the old school runescape community and fix many of the problems with the current trade system. If you are not educated enough to discuss the issue then maybe it would be better to say nothing at all :)


You contributed nothing to the GE argument and tell people not to contribute unless they're educated. Cool

I don't care how long someone has played but it sure helps if someone has seen the before/after regarding the GE, as they have a variable to go off of. So it's not irrelevant but I like seeing people supply reasons. Actual reasons.

I haven't seen any actual "pros" supplied from the Pro-GE side besides "Makes it easier". It's often a "YES WE MUST HAVE THIS FINALLY!" Just spread out to fill up a paragraph.


EDIT: Your post above is the perfect illustration. Expand and discuss.


As you mentioned above I am someone who has played RS since classic was around and I can say without a doubt that the GE will cure more problems than it will create. And since you want evidence and reasons why soooo many people support it ill list a few.

To list a few:
-the GE gives a centralized hub where buys and sellers alike can commute to barter increasing player interations.

-The scammers in OSR will be partially shut down which is never a bad thing

-and lastly players get to play the game how they want. If there are enough players who truly think and fell that using a third party website to buy and sell is the way to go then they can still buy and sell in that manner. And for the rest of us we can use the GE and spend more time playing the game that we truly have fallen in love with over the years and less time typing and world hopping.

10-Jan-2015 00:33:36

Swurds123

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I know I'm in the minority now, but I personally am voting NO. A Grand Exchange makes the game too easy, all you would have to do now to get your items sold quickly. Although, being interrupted while skilling and going all the way to VWest is getting old. But I like player interaction.

If the GE is added (which unfortunately, it's looking like it will), I also foresee holiday items like Christmas Crackers selling for very low, unlike RS3. (Christmas Crackers could be easily obtained during the Anti-Santa part of the Christmas event) For instance, a player that started the event on 12-18 could obtain up to 30 Christmas crackers this year in addition to the 2 given from previous years.

It's called "Old School RuneScape" for a reason. Please vote NO to the Grand Exchange!

10-Jan-2015 00:35:47

FaTalyWound

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Also just in case you missed it here is my other post in which I responded to another player, just thought you might want more of my thoughts on the GE discussion.

The GE does not make the game easier, it makes it more enjoyable. The time put into skilling and combat are still required. The primary draw of the game should be player interaction, questing, PvP, skilling, bossing, etc...and not the endless cycle of standing in a bank spamming "buying swordies 250 each-FatalyWound" until someone bites. The GE helps to cut out the boring and time consuming inbetween and allows players to get back into action faster. How can this be a bad thing?

Does it really make sense to keep content out of the game for nostalgic reasons that hurt gameplay?

10-Jan-2015 00:35:48

Spel Casta

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-You can buy / sell items in small portions and don't have to gather a lot of, for example, yew logs, to sell them, because people tend to buy / sell in bigger quantities.


You can already do this, very easily. I've purchased small quantities of items down to inventories.

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-You don't have to spend your playtime hopping worlds and standing at banks messaging people who have private on friends or just aren't responding because they're doing something else at the moment. The same goes other way around of course.


You put the con right there, you'll spend the same time sitting at G.E. waiting for things to buy and sell.

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-Prices will be determined by demand and supply.


This already happens. Only the G.E. will make it far, far easier to buy and sell among friends/the same person's multiple accounts to artificially inflate the price of items.

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-"The OSRS community will lose player interaction?" A: Messaging someone saying I'll buy your (item) and saying Ty after the trade doesn't seem like much player interaction to me. Besides, the playerbase was interactive in other ways than trading in 2007-2008 anyways when there was G.E, so this isn't really an argument.


There's more interaction than that, you can barter or make other offers as well as buy/sell other items at the time. I've sold fruit and tree seeds to someone buying only one type on the TP.

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-"Game will be too easy if G.E is introduced to OSRS." No one likes to spend their time buying items for quests or skills they want to level for hours with no results.


Making the game easier IS bad. Making the game easier devalues skilling and collection of items/profit from doing things, replacing skilling and hard work with money. If you don't like sitting around to buy ****, get it yourself. I got 50 smithing off of quests and iron bars I made by hand.

Merc* bots will be much easier to use with the G.E., as well. Which is bad.

10-Jan-2015 00:37:31

FaTalyWound

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Swurds123 said :
I know I'm in the minority now, but I personally am voting NO. A Grand Exchange makes the game too easy, all you would have to do now to get your items sold quickly. Although, being interrupted while skilling and going all the way to VWest is getting old. But I like player interaction.

If the GE is added (which unfortunately, it's looking like it will), I also foresee holiday items like Christmas Crackers selling for very low, unlike RS3. (Christmas Crackers could be easily obtained during the Anti-Santa part of the Christmas event) For instance, a player that started the event on 12-18 could obtain up to 30 Christmas crackers this year in addition to the 2 given from previous years.

It's called "Old School RuneScape" for a reason. Please vote NO to the Grand Exchange!


Stating the name is irrelevant as the GE was released in 2007 ie. old school runescape. The content update itself should be discussed on its pros and cons and not put-off because you feel it is not "old school"

10-Jan-2015 00:38:26

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