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Draco Burnz said :
Whatusaytome said :
You seem to think there's a lot of people with all of them. I think the closest to that is Ladyolake, who says she only ever missed one event ever. She probably has the least to gain, but she is still supportive as long as it's got Copy or something to tell it apart. Which I was against at first but not anymore.


TFW just because 1 person who has something means said things should be rereleased.

I hate to tell you, but you lost all right to this when you stopped playing the game.

Since you dont anymore, you obviously dont care if they do/dont otherwise you would be playing.

I mean why should someone who doesnt care about the game get to decide what does/doesnt happen?
"Stay on topic plz" A player's play time has nothing to do with anything. I2 irrelevant factors.

06-Jul-2019 09:50:46

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Sharp-shin said :
H4rry said :
I wouldn't say that, people seemed to be happy with those items being re-released. Personally, I got them all those years ago and didn't care that they were re-released.

Curious thing, because I remember the exact opposite.


Curious thing. because i remember the opposite to that of your memory Blackwing. I remember so many players happy they could finally play with the snow globe. And those who were grumpy about it got downvoted to oblivion on reddit :P

06-Jul-2019 09:52:00

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Sharp-shin said :

the game is different now to what it was back then. Graphics have changed, combat system has changed, playerbase has changed, the game client has changed, the jmods have changed etc, there's literally no limit to the amount of things that have changed since the times when people originally earned their untradeable discontinued holiday items.
Exactly. Times ahve changed. The playerbase has changed and therefore it's time to bring back the old items so the newer playerbase can enjoy them :)

I remember on the 2009 xmas dev blog a player was asking for the snow globe to be rereleased and the moderators response was something like "bringing back those items will make it lose its sparkle". Yet the item they said wouldn't come back did. So times and stances change.

06-Jul-2019 09:58:16

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H4rry said :

Sharp-shin said :

Obviously the same mistake can happen more than once, if you're careless and/or don't learn from the first time. Doesn't mean that you should actively want that though, because it's human to make mistakes, but stupid not to learn from them.


You keep saying it was a mistake yet I can't find anywhere where Jagex have stated that doing that event was a mistake. I did notice that they streamed the 2016 Christmas event a month before it's release on Twitch. Even though past broadcasts doesn't stretch that far b
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06-Jul-2019 10:01:56

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H4rry said :

Sharp-shin said :

If you're thinking "well why does that matter", the game is different now to what it was back then. Graphics have changed, combat system has changed, playerbase has changed, the game client has changed, the jmods have changed etc, there's literally no limit to the amount of things that have changed since the times when people originally earned their untradeable discontinued holiday items. The only way for those conditions to be the same would be by travelling back in time, in real life.


I don't really get what you're trying to say here. If everything has changed, why can't discontinued items change too? I mean they already have as I mentioned before.
exactly

06-Jul-2019 10:04:24

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H4rry said :
*snip 1st paragraph*

No, I haven't, so you'll have to excuse me but this brief description you gave left me confused. If you want to explain in more detail though, I'm listening.


H4rry said :
Yes. I own a Christmas Wand. I would not get anything from a replica Christmas Wand. That's why I would do one of the numerous Christmas events I actually missed, because then I will get something from this idea should it be implemented.

The point was that you'd get even more if new alternative versions of the old holiday items were done instead, which would thusly not only give more people more new stuff, but also not devalue the originals to a point where there is no distinctive difference in the graphical appearance.


H4rry said :
You keep saying it was a mistake yet I can't find anywhere where Jagex have stated that doing that event was a mistake. I did notice that they streamed the 2016 Christmas event a month before it's release on Twitch. Even though past broadcasts doesn't stretch that far back, you would think they would have noticed negative feedback and changed the event.

Good luck finding Jagex admitting anything they've done has been a mistake, especially directly; they'd rather spin it around and point out their "good intentions" instead. Kinda like just yesterday, when the OSRS team responded to the partnership backlash (~66% of people voted no to all the poll questions, so they prematurely cancelled the whole poll), instead of apologizing and admitting it was a mistake, they danced around it by trying to convince how good partnerships would be to us, and they even shamed us for focusing on the monetization aspect.

I was talking about actions, not words: if the 2016 Xmas rereleases hadn't been a mistake, Jagex would've repeated the action already, but they haven't, because it was a mistake.
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06-Jul-2019 17:29:02

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Sharp-shin said :
H4rry said :
*snip 1st paragraph*

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Pawn Stars, a show where people buy and sell goods. They NEVER buy a replica of an original because it does not hold the save value of an original. What I'm trying to say is that a replica does not hold the same value of an original, whether they look identical or not.

Sharp-shin said :

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I think the point of this thread is to be able to get the ones you have missed, but if you feel that it is important to be able to get two versions of an item you already own then that's fair enough.

Sharp-shin said :

I was talking about actions, not words: if the 2016 Xmas rereleases hadn't been a mistake, Jagex would've repeated the action already, but they haven't, because it was a mistake.

Shadow Hunter Outfit. Wikipedia states it is a discontinued outfit available for only 3 months in 2013. Then we saw it re-released in 2017, 2018, and now 2019.

How about items like the ornate katana? Only able to get it if you bought Runescape Membership from other means than the Runescape website during certain times, couple years ago (last available 2013). You would classify this as discontinued wouldn't you? Fast forward end of 2017. Now you can buy it with Premier Club Tokens. Again, re-releasing a discontinued item. This can be applied to any premier club token reward.

Gem crown, cape, necklace and sack, part of the Gemerator promotion mid 2016. Classified as discontinued items as the promotion ended. Came back mid 2017 in a promotion called "Gemerator returns".

These items would have actually had real value as they were obtained with real money, or in-game money. If it was really a mistake then why has it happened multiple times? And just because they're not holiday items it doesn't make it different. They're discontinued and they were re-released.

07-Jul-2019 04:26:18

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Sharp-shin said :

I was talking about actions, not words: if the 2016 Xmas rereleases hadn't been a mistake, Jagex would've repeated the action already, but they haven't, because it was a mistake.


But adding onto this, let's just say that it does make a difference whether or not the items are holiday items specifically. Well, in that case all I really needa show you is this.

An item labelled discontinued from 2014 being re-released in 2017. Guess they didn't learn their lesson in 2016 did they? Surely they won't make this mistake again, because clearly this is a mistake right? Wrong. The Rubber Turkey, and multiple other discontinued things became once again available in the 2018 Christmas Event.

07-Jul-2019 12:32:06

Turksta

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^and the biggest mistake they have made (shadow drake - was originally worded to never return again), they have went on to further rerelease it more than 3x. Just goes to show Jagex doesn't think like you Blackwing.

07-Jul-2019 17:17:29

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