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Pikachu78 said :
I know jagex chose to nothing with the result from the poll, that's why this thread exists to disccuss why it is being ignored.
They realized that it wasn't worth it: people who cared about the discontinued holiday items remaining discontinued were still a massive amount, and those who voted yes were a group of different types of players, including:

1. Those who did not care at all (when you don't care either way, you might as well vote yes if there's no punishment to you to do so).
2. Those who were envious of others having cosmetics they didn't have, and who simply wanted to ruin that for them. (Not really exclusive to Runescape, it happens in many places.)
3. Those who thought getting access to the discontinued holiday items would still keep them special, failing to realize that when everyone has the "special" thing, it's no longer special.

The people who actually cared to get items for their graphical appearance alone is only a part of the people who voted yes, and not that high of a percentage. Or do you seriously believe that there'd be lots of people yearning for outdated cosmetics when RS3 is supposed to be about pretty and more up-to-date graphics? People who like the old graphics would play OSRS, not RS3, at least if they truly cared about them.
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29-Jun-2019 15:42:25

Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said :
You seem to think there's a lot of people with all of them. I think the closest to that is Ladyolake, who says she only ever missed one event ever. She probably has the least to gain, but she is still supportive as long as it's got Copy or something to tell it apart. Which I was against at first but not anymore.

TFW just because 1 person who has something means said things should be rereleased.

I hate to tell you, but you lost all right to this when you stopped playing the game.

Since you dont anymore, you obviously dont care if they do/dont otherwise you would be playing.

I mean why should someone who doesnt care about the game get to decide what does/doesnt happen?
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29-Jun-2019 16:06:18

Whatusaytome
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Actually I still have as much right as you to speak for the game. I've played it for 13 years myself. Not including my time away. I'm quit right now mainly because the computer I have now is not the type meant for any gaming besides cosmic pinball. If I try any client for runescape, Legacy, NXT isn't compatible, I'd never stop lagging and it's just frustrating. So I haven't logged in more than a couple times in about 2 years.

Buying a computer is not a priority to me right now as I have more important things to pay. Maybe when I inevitably get one, I'll rejoin the game.

But I still love Runescape and partake in the forum because that's doable on my phone, like I'm doing right now. I only comment on a few threads anyway which almost all involve things I'm highly familiar with.

Could play OSRS on my phone but I'm not interested in it. My RS3 account is the one I want to play.

So frankly, I don't care if you think me not being an active player means I can't be in the community. They can't ban me from the forums for game inactivity.

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Back on topic, nearly everybody, including You, mister True Collector of Cosmetics.. have something to gain here. I'm sure there's some you would be interested in if they came back. Why do you disagree with them coming back? Expand your wardrobe of cosmetics even further!

What loss is there?
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29-Jun-2019 16:49:19

Whatusaytome
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Blackwing still grasping at straws I see.

Has to shame people for voting yes in a poll just because he thinks his reason for voting no is superior. Such an entitled brat.

One thing he admits though, why not vote Yes when the result is only something to gain from?

Is it really shameful to vote yes when a poll asks if you want them to expand their store options?
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29-Jun-2019 16:54:11

Pikachu78
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blackwing the items would still be special no one is trying to ruin them ,remember we arnt getting the actual items just the cosmetic override how do you fail to see they arnt the same thing? the might look the same but they aren't cause one is the psychical item you got from the event and the other is an override you bought with loyalty points massive difference plus. there's a lot more to gain then is to lose by releasing the items to the shop here.
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30-Jun-2019 05:41:42

Sharp-shin

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Pikachu78 said :
blackwing the items would still be special no one is trying to ruin them ,remember we arnt getting the actual items just the cosmetic override how do you fail to see they arnt the same thing? the might look the same but they aren't cause one is the psychical item you got from the event and the other is an override you bought with loyalty points massive difference plus. there's a lot more to gain then is to lose by releasing the items to the shop here.
"Massive difference" you say?
Unless you examined the player and their privacy wasn't enabled, there'd be no way to tell originals and new copies apart.
A new player could just turn their examine privacy on and you wouldn't be able to determine whether their holiday item is an original or a new copy (except in a PvP area, but PvP is so dead in RS3 that it doesn't matter). Hell, a veteran with the original holiday item might still want to put their examine privacy on for other privacy reasons than the holiday item itself.

A genuinely massive difference would be the ability to tell the originals and new copies apart
without having to examine the player, but simply by looking at them
. That's not something you can do with cosmetic override versions of an item; the new copies would have to be actually different in graphical appearance itself.

And then there are also the holiday items that cannot be overridden; e.g. how would you make a cosmetic override version of the Easter ring? It's not possible.
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30-Jun-2019 07:25:36

Whatusaytome
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Even with privacy on, any overridden outfit would still say Replica in the examine name.

It's only you complaining that there is a desperate need for some grand differences for people to be able to wear cosmetics. Only you.

For actual items, like the Easter ring, what's the actual issue? Do you use yours enough to give you the right to say people can't turn into an egg? If they pay for that right, you shouldn't have any say in what they do.

So you see a person as an egg and you ask them if they played the event. They say no. You get offended? Sounds like a personal problem.

You get offended way too easily. That's obvious by how desperately you ignore me ;)
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30-Jun-2019 15:29:26

H4rry
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Making it a cosmetic override that says "replica" and not the actual item, as someone said earlier would be fine IMO. Doesn't take away value from the real items. And if players still have a problem with that then why not limit what past holiday items a player can buy to their accounts age? For example my account was made mid 2005, therefore I can only get past holiday items from mid 2005 and onward. Then not just anybody can get their precious holiday goodies.

I'd love to see this implemented as there's literally one holiday item I regret not getting, and that's because I was unable to play during that time. It's just a shame we probably won't ever see this happen.

01-Jul-2019 10:01:11

Sharp-shin

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H4rry said :
Making it a cosmetic override that says "replica" and not the actual item, as someone said earlier would be fine IMO. Doesn't take away value from the real items. And if players still have a problem with that then why not limit what past holiday items a player can buy to their accounts age? For example my account was made mid 2005, therefore I can only get past holiday items from mid 2005 and onward. Then not just anybody can get their precious holiday goodies.

I'd love to see this implemented as there's literally one holiday item I regret not getting, and that's because I was unable to play during that time. It's just a shame we probably won't ever see this happen.
It wouldn't work for items that cannot be overridden + if you must examine to see a slight difference in text, it's hardly a genuine difference, massive or elsewise. Could just as well give a damn and change something, e.g. update the graphical appearance for the outdated cosmetics, and give it as the new version (it'd give something new for old owners too).

And it's not about how many people can get something, it's about which people can get something: it doesn't matter if one billion people or one hundred people get the cosmetic, it matters if they earned the cosmetic. Seeing as untradeable discontinued holiday items are supposed to be rewards that show you completed the event, if you gave them to people who didn't, even if only to those who played the game at some point prior to the event, it devalues their meaning.

Besides, if you could just start claiming holiday items from since your account creation, then you could just sleep past every holiday event and claim the rewards afterwards for no work.
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01-Jul-2019 14:51:49

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