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(F2P) QoL Improvements v2
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Rikornak
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I am not sure, what was their criteria of having their projects posted on the front page. The woodcutting rework obviously was just a prototype, which will lead to nothing for now
It has long been a pet peeve of mine that F2P cannot chop magic trees or evil magic trees. However, we can burn and fletch magic logs - if we buy them from the Grand Exchange.
Why unfairly punish gatherers (or if you prefer, unfairly elevate these artisan skills)? It just feels random, and it annoys me. Granted, F2P does not have access to magic trees. However, that could be easily fixed by allowing free players access to the resource dungeon guarded by the moss giants in the Varrock sewers - provided they have the required Dungeoneering level to do so. This skill requirement, along with the giants' presence, should effectively deter level 3 bots. It would also be nice to be able to chop evil magic trees.
Wooden this be a cool little update to F2P?
Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
I am not sure, what was their criteria of having their projects posted on the front page. The woodcutting rework obviously was just a prototype, which will lead to nothing for now
It has long been a pet peeve of mine that F2P cannot chop magic trees or evil magic trees. However, we can burn and fletch magic logs - if we buy them from the Grand Exchange.
Why unfairly punish gatherers (or if you prefer, unfairly elevate these artisan skills)? It just feels random, and it annoys me. Granted, F2P does not have access to magic trees. However, that could be easily fixed by allowing free players access to the resource dungeon guarded by the moss giants in the Varrock sewers - provided they have the required Dungeoneering level to do so. This skill requirement, along with the giants' presence, should effectively deter level 3 bots. It would also be nice to be able to chop evil magic trees.
Wooden this be a cool little update to F2P?
Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
03-Dec-2022 05:20:43
Aslon Dak
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Rikornak said :
I am not sure, what was their criteria of having their projects posted on the front page. The woodcutting rework obviously was just a prototype, which will lead to nothing for now
It has long been a pet peeve of mine that F2P cannot chop magic trees or evil magic trees. However, we can burn and fletch magic logs - if we buy them from the Grand Exchange.
Why unfairly punish gatherers (or if you prefer, unfairly elevate these artisan skills)? It just feels random, and it annoys me. Granted, F2P does not have access to magic trees. However, that could be easily fixed by allowing free players access to the resource dungeon guarded by the moss giants in the Varrock sewers - provided they have the required Dungeoneering level to do so. This skill requirement, along with the giants' presence, should effectively deter level 3 bots. It would also be nice to be able to chop evil magic trees.
Wooden this be a cool little update to F2P?
Free players can obtain magic logs by killing the KBD, so ironmen aren't locked out of creating their own magic shortbow.
Generally the reasoning of locking magic trees behind membership was to protect the value of magic logs - of an item that basically was worth around 500 gp at most in the last decade. Thing is - cutting those trees is hardly feasible - especially not if everything you've got would be a rune hatchet - but I see it as fair enough to give free players access to them via the MTA (free players actually can get those trees in the garden) and that resource dungeon, so they're able to make that bow without having to engage with a boss.
Ideally they'll fix the level requirement to 50 (since it's just a level 50 material) and the cutting rates to become feasible with a rune hatchet alongside. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention
Rikornak said :
I am not sure, what was their criteria of having their projects posted on the front page. The woodcutting rework obviously was just a prototype, which will lead to nothing for now
It has long been a pet peeve of mine that F2P cannot chop magic trees or evil magic trees. However, we can burn and fletch magic logs - if we buy them from the Grand Exchange.
Why unfairly punish gatherers (or if you prefer, unfairly elevate these artisan skills)? It just feels random, and it annoys me. Granted, F2P does not have access to magic trees. However, that could be easily fixed by allowing free players access to the resource dungeon guarded by the moss giants in the Varrock sewers - provided they have the required Dungeoneering level to do so. This skill requirement, along with the giants' presence, should effectively deter level 3 bots. It would also be nice to be able to chop evil magic trees.
Wooden this be a cool little update to F2P?
Free players can obtain magic logs by killing the KBD, so ironmen aren't locked out of creating their own magic shortbow.
Generally the reasoning of locking magic trees behind membership was to protect the value of magic logs - of an item that basically was worth around 500 gp at most in the last decade. Thing is - cutting those trees is hardly feasible - especially not if everything you've got would be a rune hatchet - but I see it as fair enough to give free players access to them via the MTA (free players actually can get those trees in the garden) and that resource dungeon, so they're able to make that bow without having to engage with a boss.
Ideally they'll fix the level requirement to 50 (since it's just a level 50 material) and the cutting rates to become feasible with a rune hatchet alongside. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention
03-Dec-2022 07:14:23
Rikornak
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The interpretation of some players is currently seeing some teasers as being astrology/astronomy/astromancy/... albeit that also could be just a smoke bomb (or really just some reading between the lines brought to eleven).
You nailed it, Rikornak! We now know Necromancy will be the 29th RS skill.
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Necromancy for that matter would be a bit clearer, but I only can see it in two ways: Being something similar to summoning (thus why is it not a subset of summoning like demonic contracts? It perfectly could be part of a summoning 120 expansion for that matter...) or being a set of dedicated spells (thus why is it not a subset of magic?). OS basically has a necromancy oriented spellbook, which also includes a much more primitive variant of summoning (since that skill isn't a thing in that game).
Looks like we shall see in 2023!
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Whatever it is, I doubt it'll be an elite skill, since Jagex basically doesn't deem them accessible enough, albeit that potentially could have changed again due to Osborne's departure. If it is an elite skill being based on f2p skills, it won't be f2p - level 80 just is too out of bounds for most free players. I generally think it most likely will be a p2p skill, with a 20 levels f2p trial.
I agree. I think Necromancy is less likely to be an elite skill than Astromancy might have been. It is most likely this will be a member skill cap of 20 for F2P. In light of the success of Archaeology, I expect this will be the norm.
What might Necromancy involve? Creating undead to fight alongside us? How about creating undead skilling assistants to mine ores, chop logs, catch fish, and so on? Maybe we will be able to communicate with long dead NPCs to receive lore, quests, or other valuable information. It should be interesting. Hopefully, there will be some content for F2P.
Aslon Dak - pure F2P. All F2P skills at level 96+ including 4 99s.
Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
The interpretation of some players is currently seeing some teasers as being astrology/astronomy/astromancy/... albeit that also could be just a smoke bomb (or really just some reading between the lines brought to eleven).
You nailed it, Rikornak! We now know Necromancy will be the 29th RS skill.
Original message details are unavailable.
Necromancy for that matter would be a bit clearer, but I only can see it in two ways: Being something similar to summoning (thus why is it not a subset of summoning like demonic contracts? It perfectly could be part of a summoning 120 expansion for that matter...) or being a set of dedicated spells (thus why is it not a subset of magic?). OS basically has a necromancy oriented spellbook, which also includes a much more primitive variant of summoning (since that skill isn't a thing in that game).
Looks like we shall see in 2023!
Original message details are unavailable.
Whatever it is, I doubt it'll be an elite skill, since Jagex basically doesn't deem them accessible enough, albeit that potentially could have changed again due to Osborne's departure. If it is an elite skill being based on f2p skills, it won't be f2p - level 80 just is too out of bounds for most free players. I generally think it most likely will be a p2p skill, with a 20 levels f2p trial.
I agree. I think Necromancy is less likely to be an elite skill than Astromancy might have been. It is most likely this will be a member skill cap of 20 for F2P. In light of the success of Archaeology, I expect this will be the norm.
What might Necromancy involve? Creating undead to fight alongside us? How about creating undead skilling assistants to mine ores, chop logs, catch fish, and so on? Maybe we will be able to communicate with long dead NPCs to receive lore, quests, or other valuable information. It should be interesting. Hopefully, there will be some content for F2P.
Aslon Dak - pure F2P. All F2P skills at level 96+ including 4 99s.
Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
14-Dec-2022 04:56:26
Rikornak
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Free players can obtain magic logs by killing the KBD, so ironmen aren't locked out of creating their own magic shortbow.
Generally the reasoning of locking magic trees behind membership was to protect the value of magic logs - of an item that basically was worth around 500 gp at most in the last decade. Thing is - cutting those trees is hardly feasible - especially not if everything you've got would be a rune hatchet - but I see it as fair enough to give free players access to them via the MTA (free players actually can get those trees in the garden) and that resource dungeon, so they're able to make that bow without having to engage with a boss.
Ideally they'll fix the level requirement to 50 (since it's just a level 50 material) and the cutting rates to become feasible with a rune hatchet alongside.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the KBD. I actually do very little bossing outside of Dungeoneering, unless you count Hollowtoof.
Still, killing KBD for drops (probably multiple times) isn't a viable option for skillers. The Mage Training Arena is members-only, and I've seen no magic trees outside the building.
I'd be fine if they left the level requirements where they are, and simply gave F2P access to - and the ability to chop - magic trees, including evil magic trees. My Woodcutting is 96. Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
Free players can obtain magic logs by killing the KBD, so ironmen aren't locked out of creating their own magic shortbow.
Generally the reasoning of locking magic trees behind membership was to protect the value of magic logs - of an item that basically was worth around 500 gp at most in the last decade. Thing is - cutting those trees is hardly feasible - especially not if everything you've got would be a rune hatchet - but I see it as fair enough to give free players access to them via the MTA (free players actually can get those trees in the garden) and that resource dungeon, so they're able to make that bow without having to engage with a boss.
Ideally they'll fix the level requirement to 50 (since it's just a level 50 material) and the cutting rates to become feasible with a rune hatchet alongside.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the KBD. I actually do very little bossing outside of Dungeoneering, unless you count Hollowtoof.
Still, killing KBD for drops (probably multiple times) isn't a viable option for skillers. The Mage Training Arena is members-only, and I've seen no magic trees outside the building.
I'd be fine if they left the level requirements where they are, and simply gave F2P access to - and the ability to chop - magic trees, including evil magic trees. My Woodcutting is 96. Aslon Dak: Still 'Scaping after 19 years!
You can buy XP. You can't buy experience.
"...From The 'Scape" is very nearly here.
14-Dec-2022 05:34:44
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