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Mod Maz

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Electric said :
Mod Maz said :
Yes, yes, I'm fully aware a lot of you don't want it, and that is still a possibility. So let's not see the "Not at all" posts and such like and focus on constructive stuff. IF it goes ahead, how would you want it implemented so that you could cope with it?

Seeing as it is a constructive route we're going down, I'll make some suggestions on the implementation.

From what I've gathered and from what everyone wants, the best option would be to achieve both of the following:

- Make them separate clan systems. After all, they are completely different games, with different characters, and combining the systems would not only confuse but also handicap people across the two game versions, apart from the potential problems and issues that could arise and a potential nightmare for the JMods to deal with and get lost in between the two games. It is best to recognise and treat each as separate and standalone systems, just as the games are.
- Ability to chat with your RS3 clanmates from OSRS and vice versa.

This would ensure that everyone is happy with the outcome.

How would this be achieved?

As shown in the picture below, a new icon would be added next to the RS3 clan one which would contain the OSRS clan interface:

http://puu.sh/nHsMe.png

The OSRS clan interface would probably be identical to the RS3 one, with the three dots (tabs) at the bottom right of it etc. When you open it up, if you are in an OSRS clan, you would be able to see your OSRS clan (and guest in other OSRS clans) through it. If you are on OSRS, the same would exist for your RS3 one which you can open up.

For those like me and many that don't really care about OSRS and don't want it to be in our way, a toggle would be available in Game/Chat Settings that would hide it completely as if it doesn't exist. Probably something like Enable/disable OSRS features . OSRS would also have the same option for RS3.

Thank you Progs, this is exactly the kind of constructive post I was hoping to see. Mod Maz
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16-Mar-2016 07:33:23

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Ceecs

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I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans? Ceecs - leader of Ceecs Clan

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16-Mar-2016 08:38:14

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Mod Maz said :
IF it goes ahead, how would you want it implemented so that you could cope with it?
From what I know, a lot of OSRS Players do NOT want:
- Citadel
- Avatars
- 1 Clan Only System
In contrast, some Players want:
- Ability to use RS3 Clan Chat on OSRS
- Multiple admins to edit ranks
And I have seen no comments in regards to the:
- Noticeboard
- Lootshare
as it seems this discussion is mainly about the chat itself.

Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?
I would assume that if you're ranked on an RS3 Clan, you would also be ranked when joining from an OSRS world in the same way you are from the Lobby. I really think some OSRS Clans might force people out of their RS3 Clans if ranks were visible in OSRS, so that's a huge concern that needs to be addressed.

And even if a new separate Clan System was added to OSRS, people would argue about the names - whether they wanted to keep the same RS3 Clan Name for their OSRS Clan or make a different one. I can't stress enough the fact that, based the way these games has evolved, people from different RS2 Clans joined into New OSRS Clans.

A button to join an RS3 Chat could be added to the OSRS Clan Chat. A toggle to show/hide it would preserve OSRS's feel for those that don't want it. A toggle on the RS3 Clan Chat to allow people from OSRS to join the RS3 Clan Chat would be useful, but also not necessary as you could always make up a Clan rule and kick OSRS Players if they're bothering you.

But umm yeah... out of all of these terrible ideas I don't support, the lesser of evils seems to be this suggestion from Ceecs I may be able to cope with.

I mean if we're talking about adding some extra clan tools to OSRS, I think that should be addressed as improving the OSRS Clan Chat (RS3 Friends Chat). Not building a new clan system. But that's just my opinion.

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16-Mar-2016 09:28:18

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Electric

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Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?

I've considered this along with many other options but it was a very difficult and complicated route to go down.

If you could just guest RS3 clans (incl. your own) from OSRS, you'd have issues like what your rank would be in your RS3 clan that you are guesting in. Assuming it's the same rank, that means it's a guest (who is not a member) with a rank so it doesn't make sense and is impossible - assuming it's no rank, you'd need the system to recognise the same name as two different accounts, and this gets very complicated especially when the whitelist for guests gets introduced in the future and is overall very confusing.

Another issue is the names of clans between OSRS/RS3 and whether they would have shared names. Making it in the same interface would also lead people to believe that the systems are combined in a way when they aren't. This is why I decided the best solution is to really make them completely separate (and not overly complicated or confusing), with the same account having access to both of the separate clan interfaces on either game version.

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16-Mar-2016 11:40:55 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 11:48:03 by Electric

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Electric

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With the clan systems hopefully now sorted theoretically, moving on to the next issue and a potential touchy subject:

Should OSRS & RS3 clans be able to have the same names (even though the systems are separate)?

Yes : They are separate systems and there would be less competition for names.

No : OSRS players would be able to have the same name as your clan (and vice versa) when you are completely unrelated, potentially leading to great confusion and issues in recruiting on the forums and in-game and with potential recruits (i.e. being mixed up between the forums and the two interfaces, even though the other game's clan interface icon display would be disabled by default, as an opt-in toggle). Also, if OSRS clans need to use a name that is used by an RS3 clan, or the same RS3 clan wants to make an OSRS clan with the same name, they could add '07' (or something similar) somewhere in the name for distinction.

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16-Mar-2016 12:17:59 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 12:19:21 by Electric

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DrBrokenBow said :
I quoted you it because my point was directly related to Maz's - that, if people want cross-game communication, it exists in the forms of a friends chat. She mentioned nothing more.

And i said it would be nice to have in clan chat too, whats your point?

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16-Mar-2016 12:49:22

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Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?

Because apparently thats too simple of an idea and we need 100 pages of random conversation about other things lol.

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16-Mar-2016 12:51:23 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 12:57:03 by Scret

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Electric said :
With the clan systems hopefully now sorted theoretically, moving on to the next issue and a potential touchy subject:

Should OSRS & RS3 clans be able to have the same names (even though the systems are separate)?

Yes : They are separate systems and there would be less competition for names.

No : OSRS players would be able to have the same name as your clan (and vice versa) when you are completely unrelated, potentially leading to great confusion and issues in recruiting on the forums and in-game and with potential recruits (i.e. being mixed up between the forums and the two interfaces, even though the other game's clan interface icon display would be disabled by default, as an opt-in toggle). Also, if OSRS clans need to use a name that is used by an RS3 clan, or the same RS3 clan wants to make an OSRS clan with the same name, they could add '07' (or something similar) somewhere in the name for distinction.

Then its just a matter of thinking of ways to solve those issues or just outright say no, it cant be done, its really not a difficult proposal people are asking for here.

As for the clan chat icon in OSRS why does it need to be hidden if you dont use it? This logic doesnt apply to anything else on the interface, i probably dont use 70% of things staring at me on my interface lol. I think its easier for people to just ignore it if they dont want to use it rather than create a toggle for it.

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16-Mar-2016 12:59:05 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 13:04:19 by Scret

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Electric

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Scret said :
As for the clan chat icon in OSRS why does it need to be hidden if you dont use it? This logic doesnt apply to anything else on the interface, i probably dont use 70% of things staring at me on my interface lol. I think its easier for people to just ignore it if they dont want to use it rather than create a toggle for it.

Since it's a strictly OSRS feature and not related to the game (RS3), its interfaces or gameplay in any way.

Most RS3 people don't play OSRS at all, so it's useless having it there, and an opt-in option would exist for players to toggle it only if they actually are players of both games. It's the same the other way around, if you are an OSRS only player it's sort of useless to have an RS3 button on your interface and you'd rather not have it constantly in your face, especially when it's not related to your game at all.

If it's there with no toggle, it would feel like the link is forced on players, a form of OSRS advertisement in RS3, and part of your RS3 gameplay, and confusing to have two clan systems showing up (the other not being for your game) especially with newer players, when the two game versions are obviously unrelated.

It's mostly just a matter of design professionalism and standards.

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16-Mar-2016 16:01:43 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2016 16:22:54 by Electric

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I know this is the rs3 clan leaders forum but ill bring it up here as a point from 07 with progs idea id really like to keep the same name over both games having them combined like that would make it from what I understand of coding (very little) would make that impossible, and talking to my clan members they really don't care about being in one clan and prefer it that I run both
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