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Agreed that it needs to remain a separate system if implemented. I have some players who visit RS3, but predominantly play OSRS - I don't really think they should be forced to choose between their OSRS clan and their RS3 clan.

I love the idea of being able to guest clan chat channels however - this would be a great addition. While PM's and FC's exist, obviously these are not suitable replacements for the clan chat system. Private messages can only be between two people, which is severely limiting if an OSRS player wants to keep in touch with a group of people, like their RS3 clan. FC's have taken on new roles in RS3 since the clan chat was created, being used more frequently for events or organizing teams. Furthermore, if an OSRS player is limited to using one FC at a time (not sure if this is the case), they're unlikely to spend all their time in a FC that is full of their RS3 clan members - they'll want to spend time in a OSRS FC.

I think the most dangerous move that can be made though is integrating the clan systems and then forcing people to choose clans across two separate games. I would rather see nothing happen if that is the only way the system can be designed.
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22-Mar-2016 06:15:53 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 06:16:22 by Kibbles RNC

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Scret said :
Mod Maz said :
Scret said :
Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?

Because apparently thats too simple of an idea and we need 100 pages of random conversation about other things lol.

It's called brainstorming Scret. Look it up, it's a useful tool for coming up with good ideas.

Too bad all it leads to is getting off topic and the original idea lost in translation, which i find a big problem in general and probably a leading cause of why fixes are so few.

No need to actually fix problems when we can spend a year talking about them.

Wonder how much brainstorming went into DarkScape

Don't you find it the least bit hypocritical to change the subject to why we shouldn't be talking about the subject and then complain we're not talking about the subject because it gets lost in the original idea?

I'll be honest - I'm not a fan of quite a few of the clan updates Jagex has done, but I will say that the ones I am most upset with are the ones in which they sought no feedback from its player-base. If there's one thing Jagex has been doing right within recent years - it's been listening to its players.

I started my clan in March 2006. We didn't even have the original clan chat (now FC) then. We didn't have any support from Jagex at all - we weren't even recognized as legitimate entities. As general players, we didn't have a say when we lost the Wilderness or plenty of the other changes that were implemented that completely revolutionized the game. Jagex served, and we dealt with the consequences.

And now, a J-Mod is asking for your feedback and you have the audacity to make passive aggressive post on how there's too much? Completely disrespectful IMO toward someone who is only trying to help in a way that never existed years ago.
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22-Mar-2016 06:26:25

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As a side note, feel free to reply to the above all you'd like, but my replies on this thread end here. I just find it to be a complete shame as to how negative CLF has become. I hardly post anymore because half the time it's people being snarky with each other or even the J-mods.

You guys have more access and power to shape the game than most of the generations before you, regardless if Jagex has retracted some of its support for clans since 2011. And everybody seems to forget that.
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22-Mar-2016 06:30:22 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 06:30:58 by Kibbles RNC

Scret
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Kibbles RNC said :
Scret said :
Mod Maz said :
Scret said :
Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?

Because apparently thats too simple of an idea and we need 100 pages of random conversation about other things lol.

It's called brainstorming Scret. Look it up, it's a useful tool for coming up with good ideas.

Too bad all it leads to is getting off topic and the original idea lost in translation, which i find a big problem in general and probably a leading cause of why fixes are so few.

No need to actually fix problems when we can spend a year talking about them.

Wonder how much brainstorming went into DarkScape

Don't you find it the least bit hypocritical to change the subject to why we shouldn't be talking about the subject and then complain we're not talking about the subject because it gets lost in the original idea?

And now, a J-Mod is asking for your feedback and you have the audacity to make passive aggressive post on how there's too much? Completely disrespectful I [/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

I have decided against my full response, there will be some what i feel are home truths about the company which a lot wont like or want to hear.

I'll point out though the passive aggressiveness wasnt one way and not for the first time.
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22-Mar-2016 12:36:02 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 12:36:20 by Scret

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Kibbles RNC said :
As a side note, feel free to reply to the above all you'd like, but my replies on this thread end here. I just find it to be a complete shame as to how negative CLF has become. I hardly post anymore because half the time it's people being snarky with each other or even the J-mods.

You guys have more access and power to shape the game than most of the generations before you, regardless if Jagex has retracted some of its support for clans since 2011. And everybody seems to forget that.

i must be reading the wrong words because when i joined clf we had no mod support to speak off and every post was about destroying the original posts heart and soul.

Mod matthe made a stand and cleaned up then mod maz opened up forums and has done a vast amount for clans.

im old and slow and everything i do takes time somethings i ask for can't be done.

my viewpoint is different from most people in game but thats my view .

if you dont ask you dont get.

I hate talking i hate typing even more but if i just sit back and say nothing nothing gets said

when i 1st applied to join clf in 2011 my clan was over 6months had 50 members and own website yet was told i lacked maturity .

Thankfully the clf is much better than it was before .
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22-Mar-2016 13:05:29 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 13:16:12 by Ninmci

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@ Ninmci

I appreciate everything Jagex and its mods does for us, as players and clans, they did not have to make a CLF, nor do they have to react to us, but they do and that is in my opinion beneficial to us and to them.
However, I still have a bit of a hard time with a total clan-administration overhaul being planned, discussed and promised, only to be nixed after.
I understand there are priorities and things change, but is it not also understandable that this makes us, or at least some of us, as clanleaders and members feel not taken seriously.
On top of that, the clansystem is in desperate need of an update, there are potentially disastrous holes in the permissions and we even have a clan-noticeboard that has been broken literally.. for ever.
But.. that is not a subject for this thread and I actually have some hope Jagex will eventually fix these things, at their own pace. Maybe OS getting clans is that time.
Here we have a J-mod, taking us seriously, asking for constructive feedback and I for one think that is a lot better then tantrums.. and yes.. i know.. I am not totally blameless in that department in the past.

It would be nice to hear what Mod Maz thinks about the feedback he got till now. I for one think there were some very good ideas, a few pages ago, but not much new since then.
Maybe we already reached a good conclusion back then!

To me this conclusion is :

- Make two separate systems.
- Allow players to join 2 different clans, 1 in OS , 1 in RS3
- Allow players to join both clans at all times, regardless of what generation of the game they play.
- Make this feature optimal for both clans and players.

On top of this allowing players in OS to guest in RS3 clans and vice versa seems to be something that some people would appreciate as well as a smiley rank for approved guests.

22-Mar-2016 21:38:30

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To be honest I feel the clan system in the games should be merged not separate. Dividing it up brings us back to the issue of well division.

Also just adding in an option which allows cross-gaming for leaders to decide in settings. In other words having these options in settings "Allow RS3 Players in chat" and "Allow OS players in chat" this let's us divide it up if wanted, having 2 in each is excessive this means that we can be in a fc, 2 clan chats, and guests in two clan chats. Very very excessive... :p °ï¦ï° Ðuel (PvM) Forum °ï¦ï°
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23-Mar-2016 04:47:24 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 04:48:47 by Will Dee

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Will Dee said :
To be honest I feel the clan system in the games should be merged not separate. Dividing it up brings us back to the issue of well division.
Lol I've been using offsite chats since before Friends Chats and Clan Chats even existed.

I still prefer IRC and TS3 over the in-game chat system. I got enough offsite chats - Skype, TeamSpeak3, IceChat for IRC, Curse Voice, Steam, Whatsapp. My Clanmates often ask me to join the game even if it's to sit on the Lobby and I just reply telling them to join TS3. :P

Then again, we're talking about pink unicorns here. Jagex isn't going to re-work the entire chat system. If anything, they'll patch it up adding some other chat like they did with the Group Chat or they'll enhance one of the existing chats. Let's keep it real.

Will Dee said :
Also just adding in an option which allows cross-gaming for leaders to decide in settings. In other words having these options in settings "Allow RS3 Players in chat" and "Allow OS players in chat" this let's us divide it up if wanted, having 2 in each is excessive this means that we can be in a fc, 2 clan chats, and guests in two clan chats. Very very excessive... :p
Like I said before, that'd be a total waste of development time. You can just makeup a Rule if you don't want people playing another game in your Friends Chat or Clan Chat.
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23-Mar-2016 05:49:54

Scret
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Dracae said :
@ Ninmci

I appreciate everything Jagex and its mods does for us, as players and clans, they did not have to make a CLF, nor do they have to react to us, but they do and that is in my opinion beneficial to us and to them.
However, I still have a bit of a hard time with a total clan-administration overhaul being planned, discussed and promised, only to be nixed after.
I understand there are priorities and things change, but is it not also understandable that this makes us, or at least some of us, as clanleaders and members feel not taken seriously.
On top of that, the clansystem is in desperate need of an update, there are potentially disastrous holes in the permissions and we even have a clan-noticeboard that has been broken literally.. for ever.
But.. that is not a subject for this thread and I actually have some hope Jagex will eventually fix these things, at their own pace. Maybe OS getting clans is that time.
Here we have a J-mod, taking us seriously, asking for constructive feedback and I for one think that is a lot better then tantrums.. and yes.. i know.. I am not totally blameless in that department in the past.

It would be nice to hear what Mod Maz thinks about the feedback he got till now. I for one think there were some very good ideas, a few pages ago, but not much new since then.
Maybe we already reached a good conclusion back then!

To me this conclusion is :

- Make two separate systems.
- Allow players to join 2 different clans, 1 in OS , 1 in RS3
- Allow players to join both clans at all times, regardless of what generation of the game they play.
- Make this feature optimal for both clans and players.

On top of this allowing players in OS to guest in RS3 clans and vice versa seems to be something that some people would appreciate as well as a smiley rank for approved guests.

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