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Dracae
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First of, thanks again Mod Maz, for seriously looking at this.

I like the way Progs is looking at this.

Two separate systems, where OS players themselves decide ( with Jagex obviously) what features they will, and will not have, but with access from both types of game to both clanchats. Not as a guest, but as a full fledged ranked member, if they are a member of the clan of course.

I do not see a problem with people being in 2 clans, one RS3, one OS, since there is no direct competition between clans that are in 2 different systems.

Like Progs I favor a button that can be moved/ taken of. No need for those not interested to have them.

About names of clans, as a gut-feeling I would not want an other clan to be called The Tavern, the name is part of our 10 year history, but.. my head tells me it would be unfair to OS to exclude all these 1000's of names already taken by RS3 clans.
Besides, there are already at least 2 copycats anyway, 1 even with the same capedesign and a similar welcome text..
If Jagex wants to address Uwfootball1's comment then they could allow existing clans, of sufficient size, to put a temporary claim on their own name for OS.
If not, then it will be like when Jagex made the current system, I had a group of people ready and waiting to make the clan and claim our name.

16-Mar-2016 17:22:38

Scret
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Electric said :
Scret said :
As for the clan chat icon in OSRS why does it need to be hidden if you dont use it? This logic doesnt apply to anything else on the interface, i probably dont use 70% of things staring at me on my interface lol. I think its easier for people to just ignore it if they dont want to use it rather than create a toggle for it.


Since it's a strictly OSRS feature and not related to the game (RS3), its interfaces or gameplay in any way.

Most RS3 people don't play OSRS at all, so it's useless having it there, and an opt-in option would exist for players to toggle it only if they actually are players of both games. It's the same the other way around, if you are an OSRS only player it's sort of useless to have an RS3 button on your interface and you'd rather not have it constantly in your face, especially when it's not related to your game at all.

If it's there with no toggle, it would feel like the link is forced on players, a form of OSRS advertisement in RS3, and part of your RS3 gameplay, and confusing to have two clan systems showing up (the other not being for your game) especially with newer players, when the two game versions are obviously unrelated.

It's mostly just a matter of design professionalism and standards.


Well i can agree to that, i assume the osrs interface is still good, the rs3 interface is beyond a confused mess anyway.
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16-Mar-2016 18:24:51

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Dracae said :
First of, thanks again Mod Maz, for seriously looking at this.

I like the way Progs is looking at this.

Two separate systems, where OS players themselves decide ( with Jagex obviously) what features they will, and will not have, but with access from both types of game to both clanchats. Not as a guest, but as a full fledged ranked member, if they are a member of the clan of course.

I do not see a problem with people being in 2 clans, one RS3, one OS, since there is no direct competition between clans that are in 2 different systems.

Like Progs I favor a button that can be moved/ taken of. No need for those not interested to have them.

About names of clans, as a gut-feeling I would not want an other clan to be called The Tavern, the name is part of our 10 year history, but.. my head tells me it would be unfair to OS to exclude all these 1000's of names already taken by RS3 clans.
Besides, there are already at least 2 copycats anyway, 1 even with the same capedesign and a similar welcome text..
If Jagex wants to address Uwfootball1's comment then they could allow existing clans, of sufficient size, to put a temporary claim on their own name for OS.
If not, then it will be like when Jagex made the current system, I had a group of people ready and waiting to make the clan and claim our name.


im not looking to have a temp claim happen, however im just thinking about if the systems are shared will the system be able to handle the same name for 2 clans
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16-Mar-2016 22:29:43

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Scret said :
Ceecs said :
I like that idea of the OSRS clan, but why not allow people from OSRS just to guest RS3 clans?


Because apparently thats too simple of an idea and we need 100 pages of random conversation about other things lol.


It's called brainstorming Scret. Look it up, it's a useful tool for coming up with good ideas.
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17-Mar-2016 07:21:42

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Really glad with the way most of you have grabbed this and are coming up with ideas. At this point nothing has been coded, either engine or content side, so I have no clue what is and isn't possible, but all these ideas help to explore the possibilities.

Keep em coming!
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17-Mar-2016 07:24:58

Ceecs
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Idea to solve this on an easy way: The smiley rank for Clan Chat! This rank can join when guests are off. Or we can turn guests to off/friends.

2 situations u can get this rank:

- U are part of the RS3 clan and u join the Clan Chat from OSRS.
- U are on a white/guest list (this has been suggested before), these can join when guests are turned off for example and are not part of the clan!

Downside: The persons not part of clan or on white/guest list can contact a leader to get an add for the list to join the clan chat when guests are turned off.

^ This way we do not have to extend the max limit of players inside a clan. I do not know if there is a maximum of guests/people that can be in a clan chat
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17-Mar-2016 07:52:27

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Having read a lot of the posts on this thread, I'm not really sure why people are so against having OSRS players share a chat with them? I frequent a friends chat where players from both games play actively, we can have conversations about either game and I've never seen an issue in the year (+) I've been in this FC.

All it takes to see which game is being talked about is to read the conversation or check which world the player talking is using. The way I see it from the majority of posts it seems like people are against joining our two communities together because of minor inconveniences such as not knowing which game is being discussed immediately or the slight chance of someone triggering an argument about which game is better. I don't really understand this viewpoint personally. Maybe some of you can clarify why you feel this way? Preferably without generalising all Old School players.

I would love for OSRS to have access to the RS3 clan chat system so I can actually talk to my fellow clan members from the game I play.

17-Mar-2016 14:50:45

Dracae
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Ceecs said :
Idea to solve this on an easy way: The smiley rank for Clan Chat! This rank can join when guests are off. Or we can turn guests to off/friends.

2 situations u can get this rank:

- U are part of the RS3 clan and u join the Clan Chat from OSRS.
- U are on a white/guest list (this has been suggested before), these can join when guests are turned off for example and are not part of the clan!

Downside: The persons not part of clan or on white/guest list can contact a leader to get an add for the list to join the clan chat when guests are turned off.

^ This way we do not have to extend the max limit of players inside a clan. I do not know if there is a maximum of guests/people that can be in a clan chat


I like the idea of a smiley rank, for guests who are on a ' whitelist' , people who can and will not join our clans because they maybe are in other clans. In my case we have several people, including the owner of an allied clan who guest quite a lot.

However, I do not think this is the optimum solution for actual clanmembers who join their RS3 chat from OS and vise versa. Their real ranks matter, specially if they are admin and have to deal with the luckily rare moments there is drama in the cc.
I must admit our clan only has very few admins that also now and then use OS, but still.. I do not see what reason there would be to make it more complicated and change their ranks while they are in the other type of RS.

Having said that, while not ideal, this idea is not horrid either.

17-Mar-2016 20:59:42

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I'm in favor of being able to join guest-chat in RS3 clanchats from other versions of the game. If you're online and playing any version you can private message anyone, or join any friends chat. Makes sense for clan chats too.

Slightly related it'd also be pretty nice if the Companion-app supported guest clanchat.

17-Mar-2016 23:17:08 - Last edited on 18-Mar-2016 00:27:46 by SofaKing

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It would be pretty nice for clans to be able to interact between RS3 and OSRS.

I like the guesting idea and would be in favour of it being possible through clan chats.

Personally I don't see a problem with OSRS guests joining the existing guests, rather than creating another tab just for OSRS guests.

17-Mar-2016 23:29:04

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