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Dracae
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Please also read the previous page..

Mattywarrior: To me that is one of the problems.. seeing it as separate.., basically considering those who left for OS traitors or something like it.
It is not , both are Runescape, both can and are played by the same person at different.. or even the same time.
This bias is nothing new, I have been around for over a decade and before OSRS and probably still at times, the same things were said about F2P, when they got / get updates some people think it a waste of developer time and many clans cater exclusively to one or the other.

In the end though it is one subscription, one story, one history and people do cross over. I have had several clanmates who after a long break returned and RS3 overwhelmed them, because of the changes. They went to OS, but some actually after a while moved to the modern game. Some did not.

Anyway, why give in to the anger, divisiveness instead of moving forwards, together.. Yeh I know I sound like a political candidate.. lol..
Seriously though, as long as clans have the option to reject players because of ..whatever.. and they do, many clans reject F2P, or lower leveled , or whatever.. there is no harm whatsoever to this.

Let me propose one more option: Make separate clans for OS, if they wish to have them, but do not make them compete, so players can be in an OS clan and an RS3 clan at the same time.. and ad an extra chat OPTION , in both gametypes, to be active in both clanchats at the same time regardless of what you are currently playing.

10-Mar-2016 19:58:24 - Last edited on 10-Mar-2016 20:05:23 by Dracae

Mattywarrior
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I shall maintain by heavily biased opinion on the matter, but your welcome to your own lol.


Just to bring up on the topic of clans though, if we shove the whole interconnecting the 2 games to one side, even if they get a standalone clan system, does this mean Maz is back onto writing the clan system lol.

Now the option here is she will simply copy over the horrific spaghetti code that is clans to shitscape osrs, or, this gives Maz the chance to rewrite the permission system from the ground up instead of attempting to alter existing code, which in tern could be used to replace our own system if that is even possible?

Is this an actually workaround of finding a way to complete the permission rewrite lol
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10-Mar-2016 21:31:15

Dracae
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LOl, I would love to have Maz back fully on clans.. and I would also be very happy if the clanpermisisons and such got a total overhaul, I think I ahum.. peed several J-mods, including Maz of ranting a lil about that a while back.. It still kinda irks me that this was not done, but I never blamed Maz or other individual J-mods..

Anyway, who knows.. I am just very committed to and protective of this old clan of ours and its members and to me it seems a great improvement if our OS members and us could enjoy each others company again.

How much of a priority this is.. well Jagex can decide that, lol..

10-Mar-2016 21:54:16

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When OSRS originally came out, I believed that OSRS players should be able to join their RS3 clans - and felt unhappy they couldn't. However, as both games have progressed, and therefore separated, the players from each game have a known hatred for players of the other game.

With where the games current state is, I feel that keeping them separate is the best choice now. If you wish to connect with players from the other games, then friends chat exists.

I feel this way because, as mentioned, players from one game tend to have a dislike (though I admit not always) for players of the other game. Conversations could be confusing and misleading, and whilst it could be easily explained it could be more of a hassle. Both games have progressed far since their initial release, and with that so has the differences between players. It would cause more issues than solve.
Whilst I'd normally agree to a toggle, how would you toggle a clan to allow or ban players from one game? But, as I believe I also read in someones earlier post, connecting to OSRS could cause issues in terms of expanding/improving our current clan system due to the difference in the games coding.
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11-Mar-2016 02:53:07

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Mod Maz said :
I am currently gathering feedback from the OSRS community about what they would like to see in a clan system, yes.

Will we connect it to RS3? That remains to be seen. There is certainly a fair chunk of people who would like to see their divided communities once again able to interact, but there is also another chunk of people who want to keep it totally separate.

No decision has been made at this point.


Kicked OSRS players that no longer play RS3. No support for unifying the communities at this point. Had it been in effect from the start perhaps, but at this point in time I see no advantages.
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11-Mar-2016 05:55:09

Weyburn
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Mod Maz said :
I am currently gathering feedback from the OSRS community about what they would like to see in a clan system, yes.

Will we connect it to RS3? That remains to be seen. There is certainly a fair chunk of people who would like to see their divided communities once again able to interact, but there is also another chunk of people who want to keep it totally separate.

No decision has been made at this point.


I don't see why you're concerned about "connecting the communities"

there's already fc's that go between games, why not cc's
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11-Mar-2016 07:00:37

Pescao6
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Mod Maz said :
I am currently gathering feedback from the OSRS community about what they would like to see in a clan system, yes.

All of my OSRS Friends seem happy with the OSRS Clan Chat (RS3 Friends Chat). I even know many of them use the Orion Client for its added Chat functionalities. You could add those to the game without having to design a new Clan System for OSRS.

I mean as far as I know people who play OSRS are happy to NOT have some of the RS3 Clan Tools like Citadels, Avatars, etc. Many consider them to make the game easier while others are just happy not having to deal with them in general.

What feedback have you gathered so far?
Many people don't like the RS3 Clan Chat because the Noticeboard is bugged, Probation/Cooldown has been another problem you still haven't fixed, kicking Clanmates removes them from the Clan instead of from the Chat and there is no mute to cool down heated arguments aside from raising the talk permission minimum rank. Not to mention you can only be ranked on 1 Clan Chat because there is a lot of stuff linked to it including your Anagogic Orts, Citadel Fealty, Gained Clan Xp, etc. And although it's been great for ranking people into a Memberlist, the RS3 Clan System is highly inefficient for Activities because it has no loot share like the Friends and Group Chats. The permissions are also a problem for those Clans who want to allow all Clanmates to use the Avatars they work so hard to keep, although a few Clans have decided to rank all of their members as Admin+ so they can have the Avatar Warden job while others have found other ways of sharing the Avatars. Tbh the only benefit I see to the RS3 Clan Chats as a chat is the fact multiple people can be ranked as administrators to adjust the ranks of others as needed and remove them from the Clan if necessary.

Less is more. Sorry for the wall of text. :P
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11-Mar-2016 07:21:23

Pescao6
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Weyburn said :
there's already fc's that go between games, why not cc's

I don't think people would use it the way you hope which is to chat.

From what I've seen joining different OSRS CCs through the RS3 Friends Chat, I mainly find hostility because you're playing a different game. People want you to play the same game they're playing with them. Arguments about which game is better always arise. Then people start talking about stuff unrelated to the game you're playing which is odd.

I opened my Friends Chat for Clanmates who left RS3 to play OSRS. I later decided to abandon using it and send all of my Clanmates to another OSRS Only Chat because:
1) I wasn't actively playing OSRS, so I felt inactive as a Clan Leader.
2) It was just weird.

And this isn't just my personal experience. Read the comments from others who will tell you the exact same thing. I didn't support this when OSRS was release and given what I know I would not support it now.
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11-Mar-2016 07:34:07 - Last edited on 11-Mar-2016 07:47:29 by Pescao6

Scret
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Pescao6 said :
Scret said :
Integration from other games would be good, for those who dont like the idea have an option to turn it off.

Do we need it? People who play multiple games already have Steam, Curse Voice, TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, Razer Comms, Raidcall, etc. just to name a few.

Jagex has already connected most of their games via Private Chat and the OSRS Clan Chat is literally integrated with the RS3 Friends Chat. I mean it's the same thing.

I understand why some might want it, but I don't. O_o

Scret said :
My solution though would be to close osrs and darkscape.

OSRS isn't closing any time soon. Too much development has gone into it and its community has grown to be as active if not more than the RS3 Community. I personally get jealous sometimes of the cool updates OSRS gets that RS3 doesn't. :P

DarkScape will be closing on March 28, 2016. I feel indifferent about it since I never played it, but I might before it's last day. ;)


If you dont want it then thats why its good to have an option to have an option, it doesnt hurt anything to integrate it for those clan chats who want it.

If people dont want hostility in their clans then dont have people who will cause hostility over something so meaningless as to which version of runescape someone plays lol.

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11-Mar-2016 11:32:22 - Last edited on 11-Mar-2016 11:37:12 by Scret

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People dont hate OSRS players, where do people get this nonsense from?
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