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Chaos Lupus

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Ancient Drew said :
King Shoshon said :
Excluding whatever the Godless are going to have as a leader, probably Armadyl. You can't be a "god" and a wimp. Its just recipe for disaster. Oh, I wouldn't call him a wimp. He may have had a history for pacifism, but he had the balls to stand up to and kill Bandos, and has stated that he will kill if he feels the need to. And he was there when Tuska came hurtling towards us. I would say he's got some bottle considering he's one of the more peaceable gods, and his phoenix mantle is likely to be earned.

Did he, though? He just sat there and had a staring contest with Bandos while his followers died in his name. The gods might have done more than we got to see on-screen in that battle, but if that was the intent, there's nothing to confirm it in-game.

As for Tuska, I don't recall seeing Armadyl anywhere in the vicinity. He and the other gods just sent their followers to handle the problem for them. Again.
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01-Nov-2016 21:23:57

Ancient Drew

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Chaos Lupus said :
Ancient Drew said :
King Shoshon said :
Excluding whatever the Godless are going to have as a leader, probably Armadyl. You can't be a "god" and a wimp. Its just recipe for disaster. Oh, I wouldn't call him a wimp. He may have had a history for pacifism, but he had the balls to stand up to and kill Bandos, and has stated that he will kill if he feels the need to. And he was there when Tuska came hurtling towards us. I would say he's got some bottle considering he's one of the more peaceable gods, and his phoenix mantle is likely to be earned.

Did he, though? He just sat there and had a staring contest with Bandos while his followers died in his name. The gods might have done more than we got to see on-screen in that battle, but if that was the intent, there's nothing to confirm it in-game.

As for Tuska, I don't recall seeing Armadyl anywhere in the vicinity. He and the other gods just sent their followers to handle the problem for them. Again. I'm pretty sure he was. I mean, we never saw Vorago until he did the job on Tuska, and he stated himself he's not a Godless. I'm pretty certain that if Armadyl won it he would have come running and shot her between the eyes. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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01-Nov-2016 21:32:40

Chaos Lupus

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Ancient Drew said :
Chaos Lupus said :
Ancient Drew said :
King Shoshon said :
Excluding whatever the Godless are going to have as a leader, probably Armadyl. You can't be a "god" and a wimp. Its just recipe for disaster. Oh, I wouldn't call him a wimp. He may have had a history for pacifism, but he had the balls to stand up to and kill Bandos, and has stated that he will kill if he feels the need to. And he was there when Tuska came hurtling towards us. I would say he's got some bottle considering he's one of the more peaceable gods, and his phoenix mantle is likely to be earned.

Did he, though? He just sat there and had a staring contest with Bandos while his followers died in his name. The gods might have done more than we got to see on-screen in that battle, but if that was the intent, there's nothing to confirm it in-game.

As for Tuska, I don't recall seeing Armadyl anywhere in the vicinity. He and the other gods just sent their followers to handle the problem for them. Again. I'm pretty sure he was. I mean, we never saw Vorago until he did the job on Tuska, and he stated himself he's not a Godless. I'm pretty certain that if Armadyl won it he would have come running and shot her between the eyes.

It would have been Zamorak, Saradomin, or Armadyl that killed Tuska (personally, I was hoping for Saradomin) had their faction won, but I mean from an in-game perspective. There was nothing physically stopping them from getting the jump on her before Vorago got involved, the determining factor was just a gameplay mechanic. As far as the canon story goes, the gods did nothing, to our knowledge, to stop Tuska.
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01-Nov-2016 21:46:09

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Well I despise Zaros on the level that he has gotten tons of quest and lore content and it wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be. Having said that though ideologically I don't see him as bad as the others.

Zamorak is probably the god I see as a villain. I could go on about his flaws or his actions being the opposite of his philosophy. But I really am not a fan of him just because he has become kind of soft in his more recent appearances and he is in the same boat in Zaros in that we have seem him a lot and learned about him and I just still don't like him.
If I don't like something constantly presenting it to me again is not going to make me like it more and that is the effect Zaros and Zamorak have on me.

His followers are equally ridiculous. Black Knights: "We aren't the bad guys white knights are corrupt!" but then their castle has slaves, skeletons, and all the sadistic stuff you associate with being edgy.


The other flip side theory I could propose is that Saradomin is my antithesis. I'd gladly throw away my World Guardian duties if it benefits him and that probably makes him at least in my play through that is pretty dangerous to the rest of gielinor
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02-Nov-2016 00:50:44

Chaos Lupus

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Raxxess said :
Well I despise Zaros on the level that he has gotten tons of quest and lore content and it wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be. Having said that though ideologically I don't see him as bad as the others.

Zamorak is probably the god I see as a villain. I could go on about his flaws or his actions being the opposite of his philosophy. But I really am not a fan of him just because he has become kind of soft in his more recent appearances and he is in the same boat in Zaros in that we have seem him a lot and learned about him and I just still don't like him.
If I don't like something constantly presenting it to me again is not going to make me like it more and that is the effect Zaros and Zamorak have on me.

His followers are equally ridiculous. Black Knights: "We aren't the bad guys white knights are corrupt!" but then their castle has slaves, skeletons, and all the sadistic stuff you associate with being edgy.


The other flip side theory I could propose is that Saradomin is my antithesis. I'd gladly throw away my World Guardian duties if it benefits him and that probably makes him at least in my play through that is pretty dangerous to the rest of gielinor

Ironically, it's not that black and white.
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02-Nov-2016 01:56:43

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Hazeel said :
The effects he and Seren had on each other diminished, but never went away, and the effects Seren had on her elves never went away either....so with that said, I think Zaros is wrong on that count. I think the only reason Zamorakians got out of it is due to the whole "clarity aura" Zamorak has to counter it.

2 very important things to consider about this.

1. Seren inextricably bound the elves to herself via the Song of Creation. This is made abundantly clear in the Longevity and Need Memorium Crystals from Priff, and is why the effects Seren had on the elves was so strong and long lasting. The closest equivalent Zaros has to this is the shard of his being he implanted in Nex thaat, while granting her sentience, makes her incapable from being anything other than loyal to Zaros. Most of his followers lack such a strong binding force.

2. There is very little evidence to support the conclusions that Zamorak has a 'clarity' aura or that it played any part in the Zamorakian rebellion if it does. The only things hinting that such an aura may even exist is Bilrach and Viggora apparently regaining their sanity, and that could simply be attributed to Zamorak being someone very close to both of them (a familiar face to jog their memories). But even supposing he does possess such an aura, there is no evidence supporting that he possessed it prior to becoming a god, and you have to remember that a significant chunk of the Zamorakians rebelling against Zarosian loyalists happened while Zamorak was on Infernus.

Chaos Lupus said :
That's not loyalty, that's fear of punishment.

Except that fear doesn't really seem to play a part in it. It's definitely akin to brainwashing, but it appears to be a matter of altering the subjects' perceptions such that they are strongly compelled to obey Zaros, rather than them fearing punishment for disobedience.

02-Nov-2016 02:48:48 - Last edited on 02-Nov-2016 02:55:53 by Hguoh

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Hazeel said :

Tumeken did. Saradomin destroyed an entire world. Theory is Armadyl did the same (but that is just a theory...)


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Ascertes said :
Oddly enough, the answer is...

Marimbo.

She stands against everything I hold dear. The entire concept of hedonism is enough to give me nightmares.

I don't think I need to indulge further. Those who know me know quite well why I stand against her.

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02-Nov-2016 04:49:16 - Last edited on 02-Nov-2016 04:53:04 by Lego Miester

Ancient Drew

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William Witt said :
The gods were behind the whole spear thing in the Tuska event, weren't they? Yeah. Saradomin had a score to settle with Tuska, Zamorak wouldn't sit by and let him take the glory, and Armadyl probably encountered Tuska before as well as Bandos. He might even tell us a bit about other gods we haven't heard of too. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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02-Nov-2016 11:56:04

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