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Falkenberg

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I used to favour guthix, but have been supporting zaros for some years now. In a way, i look upon his agenda as I do with nuclear power. It has flaws and has a nasty potential to generate waste that'll be difficult to deal with - but its the best thing we've got for the time being. The
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30-Aug-2015 17:01:30

Jaekob Caed
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I wouldn't say I follow any RS god, as I have my own God that I worship (my sig hints at this), BUT I do align myself with Armadyl first, Zaros second, sometimes Saradomin and Seren. I don't like how Seren is approaching her return; I feel that even though she's a pacifist, she should work with Zaros to save Gielinor. By saving Gielinor, she saves her children.

I also do agree with what you said about Zaros; I don't care much for his moral nihilism and I don't care much for his "survival of the fittest" attitude, BUT I do believe he has good intentions. If he, Seren, and Armadyl worked together with us -- the World Guardian -- just IMAGINE what Gielinor could become. Zaros becomes fate, Seren becomes a co-ruler (perhaps the queen) of Gielinor, and Armadyl would be both a judge and a leader of the armies of Gielinor. I'd love to see a new empire arise with the World Guardian at the head of it. Anyways, that's just my personal fantasy lol

I personally agree most with Armadyl. He believes in peace, unity, and justice.. yet he's also compassionate and grasps that love conquers all. This aligns quite a bit with my real-life faith, so kinda naturally I am attracted to his beliefs. I say that I align myself with these gods, since in my roleplaying, my real-life faith exists in the game world, and I have my own mission in Gielinor.
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30-Aug-2015 20:58:36

Lord Remus

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I would like to provide you with another option:

Why follow any of them? While it's true that their Ideals and philosophies may appeal to you, there is nothing stopping you from following all these Ideals by yourself. As an Independent you could simply follow your own path without bending the knee to who believes they are better than you.

I'm not saying go kill each of the Gods or defy them at every corner but rather don't let them dictate you or your actions. If you want to help Saradomin, then by all means do so... Just don't throw yourself at his feet or pray for him to solve your problems. The best person to fix our own issues are ourselves.

By fixing our own problems, we learn from the experience, we grow stronger as a person. We don't get any of that if a God solves the issue for us.

And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.

Order can avoid stagnation with a healthy dose of Chaos.
Peace and Justice can sometimes only be established through War.
Control can be cruel if there isn't some Freedom.

Everything in life is circumstantial and ever changing. Adapt yourself and your own beliefs as you grow and learn. Never let stubbornness ruin the chance for you to learn and grow as a person. Even if you don't fully agree with a God's Philosophy, take what you do agree with and others you may agree with and shape it into your own.

Be Independent and play the game and life the way you choose.
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31-Aug-2015 03:17:17

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I favor Zaros mainly because of how he logically handles situations. Of course, I may be a bit biased, because logical, analytical thinking happens to be central to my own worldview.

I would say that Zaros thinks in the way an artificial intelligence or heck, a Vulcan would. Carefully weighing options and extremes knowing that the best solution might not be the most well-liked. And while I do appreciate Seren and Armadyl for their philosophies, sometimes, they can come across as naive. That's not to say that they're less intelligent, only that they are less willing to consider more extreme solutions. On the plus side, they are a lot more "human" and empathizing, and in dire situations are a lot more pleasant to be around.

As for whether Zaros should be trusted, well, here's my take on it. We have Sliske as a comparison, who is quite clearly manipulative and cunning. Just from the way Zaros phrases his dialogue, he seems to want to make sure you that you understand what's going on before you make your choices. Otherwise, I doubt he would not have let you even think about making a light simulacrum to sabotage him.

But as for which god you should follow? Only you can make that choice. I would go with one that most closely follows how you see the world, or whichever one matches your personal philosophy or religion closest. Of course, I wouldn't get too personal or you'll end up in a flame war.
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31-Aug-2015 13:20:02 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2015 13:23:00 by Krayfishkarl

Regrette

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Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.
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01-Sep-2015 06:01:00

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Regrette said :
Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.


Seren's strength rivals Zaros's, too. They are both tier 2 transcended gods, after all. Originally, Seren and Guthix thought that if they could manipulate the anima mundi around where they slept, they could trick the Elders into thinking the planet is not ripe enough to eat yet. But constant wars and the anima rifts made this complicated so Seren is moving on to something else, now. Perhaps she plans to crystallize the anima to keep them trapped or make the anima unedible.
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01-Sep-2015 06:32:26

Regrette

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iXavior said :
Regrette said :
Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.


Seren's strength rivals Zaros's, too. They are both tier 2 transcended gods, after all. Originally, Seren and Guthix thought that if they could manipulate the anima mundi around where they slept, they could trick the Elders into thinking the planet is not ripe enough to eat yet. But constant wars and the anima rifts made this complicated so Seren is moving on to something else, now. Perhaps she plans to crystallize the anima to keep them trapped or make the anima unedible.


As of now, she has no plan that we know of, and she only just returned. I can only see her as an obstacle to Zaros' plan until she proves otherwise.
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01-Sep-2015 09:09:35

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Regrette said :
Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.
Seren will come up with an alternate plan too, we do not have to risk it. Also Vorago can summon up all of the Anima Mundi of Gielinor, he represents Gielinor's entire Anima Mundi. If the elder gods attacked it would probably be a fair fight if it was 1 v 1. He will just reform everytime he is killed to attack again, do not underestimate Vorago. He took down Tuska with only 1 punch.

01-Sep-2015 10:24:44

Regrette

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Padomenes said :
Regrette said :
Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.
Seren will come up with an alternate plan too, we do not have to risk it. Also Vorago can summon up all of the Anima Mundi of Gielinor, he represents Gielinor's entire Anima Mundi. If the elder gods attacked it would probably be a fair fight if it was 1 v 1. He will just reform everytime he is killed to attack again, do not underestimate Vorago. He took down Tuska with only 1 punch.


Zaros has a plan. Are you seriously suggesting that we should wait for Seren to come up with one?

I think you're grossly misunderstanding what exactly the Elder Gods are. They are not simply a "tier" above Zaros and Seren in power. They are primordial beings. Gielinor to them may have been their "perfect world", but they could easily create another, and is but a speck of sand on the beach. The Great Revision affects the entire universe, not just Gielinor. Zaros is outmatched, should they awaken. Vorago has no chance.
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01-Sep-2015 10:44:59

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Padomenes said :
Regrette said :
Lord Remus said :


And before anyone starts shouting at me that "Zaros has a plan for the Elders!", stop I get it. Zaros's "plan" is ridiculous and the fact so many put so much faith in it shocks me.

We can find our own way to deal with the Elders, our own way to handle the Dragonkin and our own way to do things our way.


See, that's great in theory, but the Godless do not know about the Elder Gods and even if they did, there's nothing they can do. There's nothing Vorago can do this time, either. Zaros' plan might be nebulous and risky, but it's the only plan there is right now, and Zaros is the only god powerful enough to do something as of this post.
Seren will come up with an alternate plan too, we do not have to risk it. Also Vorago can summon up all of the Anima Mundi of Gielinor, he represents Gielinor's entire Anima Mundi. If the elder gods attacked it would probably be a fair fight if it was 1 v 1. He will just reform everytime he is killed to attack again, do not underestimate Vorago. He took down Tuska with only 1 punch.



Actaully 3 blows and an energy blast =/
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