Forums

Seren, Zaros, or Armadyl?

Quick find code: 341-342-379-65671193

Svigris

Svigris

Posts: 806 Gold Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Vardan said :
Prime Axiom said :
Zaros would turn armadyl into a powerful defender of Gielinor, possibly even granting him dominion over the mortal races as he goes about his plan.

Seren would have him talk to her in her tower of voices for all of eternity.

It may not have been your intention but you do raise an interesting question. Seren has pointed out that we really don't know exactly our place in Zaros' plan is. However another thing we don't know is Zaros' plans for the other Young Gods . Seren has shown that she's going to be opposing his plans. Zamorak will no doubt try to do the same. Saradomin will probably oppose him as well. Armadyl could also oppose him, or he could join him. What would he even do with a god that joined him though?


Armadyl has shown that he "has learn from the past" and as such will likely never align himself with any other god ever again. Especially one who has earned the title of god of manipulation. There is no chance of Armadyl assisting Zaros willingly.

However, there is one exception to this were Zaros to show himself to the world it is possible if both Saradomin and Zamorak agree to stop fighting to deal with Zaros, that Armadyl would also join in, as he did see the atrocities of the empire and would not wish for that to come to pass again. For Armadyl has also shown he is willing to risk his life for his ideals.

29-Aug-2015 01:07:00 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2015 01:07:57 by Svigris

Hazeel

Hazeel

Posts: 6,735 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Svigris said :
Armadyl has shown that he "has learn from the past" and as such will likely never align himself with any other god ever again. Especially one who has earned the title of god of manipulation. There is no chance of Armadyl assisting Zaros willingly.


I disagree. I recall Jagex saying that, if Zaros convinced him he wouldn't make another empire, Armadyl would likely become subservient.
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

29-Aug-2015 01:13:11

Svigris

Svigris

Posts: 806 Gold Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Hazeel said :
Svigris said :
Armadyl has shown that he "has learn from the past" and as such will likely never align himself with any other god ever again. Especially one who has earned the title of god of manipulation. There is no chance of Armadyl assisting Zaros willingly.


I disagree. I recall Jagex saying that, if Zaros convinced him he wouldn't make another empire, Armadyl would likely become subservient.


I doubt Armadyl would believe Zaros honestly.

Armadyl is uninterested in long term alliances with other gods, not to mention manipulative ones.

29-Aug-2015 01:18:28

Prime Axiom

Prime Axiom

Posts: 3,736 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Seren has pointed out she doesn't trust Zaros. Do we know Zaros' plans for us? Details, no. We do know that we are important, and that alone is enough.

Zaros does not seek direct involvement in any affairs. Most likely, he'll task Armadyl with watching over Gielinor whilst he transcends.

29-Aug-2015 03:22:54

iXavior

iXavior

Posts: 390 Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
@Kastor

Original message details are unavailable.

Seren isn't perfect, she has flaws and she makes mistakes. She regrets what happened to Tarddiad, but in her mind it was a move that she had to make. She could not force those who remained behind to go with her, she knew the consequences, but she had no choice.

She did a bad thing and she regrets it (this should be clear from her dialogue). But they are still things that she has done. But don't forget she also did an awful lot of good for the elves. She taught them agriculture, magic, various methods of construction. She expanded their lives dramatically (which went a bit wrong, but hey, at least she tried).

So, she's not a jerk and she's not uncaring, but she's also not utterly infallible. ;)

= Raven =
I worship Mah, for she is mah homegirl! The correct adjective for Mah's followers are: Mahomies, Mah-homeboys, or Mah-homegirls.

29-Aug-2015 06:21:21

White Eyes32

White Eyes32

Posts: 833 Gold Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I find sympathy with Zaros and Seren, personally. I'm not too familiar with Armadyl. I aligned myself with the Godless after TWW, but I still feel that the help of some gods will be needed to truly free the planet of their influence. Ergo, I helped Zaros out, but I intend on helping Seren and the Godless as well. Red The White : Prime Minister of
Green Team

29-Aug-2015 08:36:13

Cthris
Dec Member 2023

Cthris

Posts: 5,206 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
@ Ixavior

Woo congrats, Seren feels regret. I'm sure that's going to make all the people she killed, got killed and left to be killed feel so great.

Frankly, while I thank you for posting the quote :) , it doesn't remotely change my opinion or stance. She is responsible for tons and tons of deaths, and countless other horrible things, should all that be ignored simply because she feels bad? If at the very least you should be extreamly cautious that she would probably pull stuff like this again.

29-Aug-2015 15:14:15

Pantamalion

Pantamalion

Posts: 646 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Cthris said :
@ Ixavior

Woo congrats, Seren feels regret. I'm sure that's going to make all the people she killed, got killed and left to be killed feel so great.

Frankly, while I thank you for posting the quote :) , it doesn't remotely change my opinion or stance. She is responsible for tons and tons of deaths, and countless other horrible things, should all that be ignored simply because she feels bad? If at the very least you should be extreamly cautious that she would probably pull stuff like this again.
The point of her regret is that she understands the consequences of what she did and is unlikely the same mistakes again -- a goal she has made empirical steps to achieve, such as withdrawing from the world and answering to the Elven Council.

29-Aug-2015 20:23:24

Browncow45
Mar Member 2015

Browncow45

Posts: 1,326 Mithril Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I definitely think both Zaros and Seren are going to try to get Armadyl on their side in dealing with the Elders. I've always sided with Armadyl since Emissaries since he actually wants to make the world a better place and is willing to make it happen. Also, he thinks gods should act as guides to their followers instead of lording over them. I overall find him to be the one god who's already overcome their flaw, aside from Seren where I literally destroyed her flaw for her.

In regards to the other two, I definitely trust Seren over Zaros. Seren's always been open and honest, valuing people more than herself and is actually more level headed than I thought, while Zaros is a much more complex issue since he's historically selfish and I'm not sure we can trust him. I want to believe he's learned from his mistakes after Zammy bested him, but his goal hasn't changed and he still has no moral standards and keeps everybody in the dark regarding his plans, so I believe that he's just using us as a tool to get what he wants. On the other hand, I think Seren's 'pacifism' only means she's going to avoid most fighting, rather than completely staying out of major affairs at this point now that Guthix is gone, so her and Armadyl would probably make a good team if they don't all three come to an agreement.

30-Aug-2015 00:33:34

Quick find code: 341-342-379-65671193 Back to Top