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Lord Drakan
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@Balu: Yes, the thing about finishing off storylines quickly, even the Sixth Age, is worrying.

@Delta: Yes, pretty much every quest with combat needs to have that part revisited, but that still hasn't happened, alas. And what you say is correct - because quests are 1-off content, we require more of them (see one of the sections on page 1). And, no, didn't count sagas.

@Robo: D'you reckon the change in quest style has led to less quests being produced? If so, then the old style should be restored at once! (it's not like new players will quit over that...)
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30-Jun-2014 14:40:28 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2014 14:48:36 by Lord Drakan

Balustan

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@Deltaslug I also don't know what pushing 200 quests has to do with anything. We will always need more quests until the day they become repeatable. Even then we will constantly need more.

I would say some reworks removed storylines altogether which is not a good thing imo. Storylines which are the premise of others quests which make no sense now. While some were done excellently like the Ozan Reworks which made the series more focused even if they brought in an undesirable element that being Ozan.

On my splitting hairs about sagas. No there are very clear differences between sagas and quests and I would not consider them quests. As I said I enjoy sagas well I enjoy some sagas I thought the first batch was woeful but the second batch was quite good.
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30-Jun-2014 14:51:06

Robo Hobo

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Lord Drakan said :

@Robo: D'you reckon the change in quest style has led to less quests being produced? If so, then the old style should be restored at once! (it's not like new players will quit over that...)


No, they probably wouldn't.

But I bet you a hypothetical 100k there'd be a thread about at least one person saying they would quit because of it and then likely not end up doing so in the end.

EDIT: Also you, Balustan and Ere* Lapuce* look alike. :P

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30-Jun-2014 15:05:53 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2014 15:08:14 by Robo Hobo

Dionysius
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Robo Hobo said :
Lord Drakan said :

@Robo: D'you reckon the change in quest style has led to less quests being produced? If so, then the old style should be restored at once! (it's not like new players will quit over that...)


No, they probably wouldn't.

But I bet you a hypothetical 100k there'd be a thread about at least one person saying they would quit because of it and then likely not end up doing so in the end.

EDIT: Also you, Balustan and Ere* Lapuce* look alike. :P

Azzy hats ftw

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Can someone plz change their hat, I keep getting confused about who is posting until I check the name. Balustan where did your horns go.
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30-Jun-2014 15:12:03

Fiksii
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Balustan said :
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Don't see why it's a problem, not all quests are going to be small and recycling. If we don't allow new landmass we'll be stuck with the over-flooded main map even longer. Just because it takes a quest to get some actual new land doesn't mean that it should be canned because the land made the quest look so expensive compared to small ones. I don't feel like it's that important to fuel the "omg new quest" tick that we have to sacrifice big ones.

Also maybe I'm off but this year so far is pretty even with 2006 in terms of total amount of updates, and I'd still believe us getting 8 quests for now. We'll see.
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30-Jun-2014 15:15:11 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2014 15:19:28 by Fiksii

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Dionysius said :
Robo Hobo said :
Lord Drakan said :

@Robo: D'you reckon the change in quest style has led to less quests being produced? If so, then the old style should be restored at once! (it's not like new players will quit over that...)


No, they probably wouldn't.

But I bet you a hypothetical 100k there'd be a thread about at least one person saying they would quit because of it and then likely not end up doing so in the end.

EDIT: Also you, Balustan and Ere* Lapuce* look alike. :P

Azzy hats ftw

EDIT2: Noob censor


Can someone plz change their hat, I keep getting confused about who is posting until I check the name. Balustan where did your horns go.


I've actually never even taken off this hat ever since I got it. Not even for a second.

And I'm not going to, I never will!
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30-Jun-2014 15:20:15

Balustan

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Fiksii said :
Balustan said :


Don't see why it's a problem, not all quests are going to be small and recycling. If we don't allow new landmass we'll be stuck with the over-flooded main map even longer. Just because it takes a quest to get some actual new land doesn't mean that it should be canned because the land made the quest look so expensive compared to small ones.

Also maybe I'm off but this year so far is pretty even with 2006 in terms of total amount of updates, and I'd still believe us getting 8 quests for now. We'll see.


Well they could use space better in quite a lot of places. Also I agree they have to add landmasses at some point but to add dungeons rather than actual surface locations is a problem with that. If we can get 2 excellent quests over 1 excellent quest i will always go for the 2.

My viewpoint is from 2008 mainly and that is the standard I take because it was a fantastic year. Also the updates we see these days are generally far smaller than updates of the past to the point some I wouldn't consider worthy of newsposts.

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30-Jun-2014 15:21:52 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2014 15:38:53 by Balustan

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I agree, bling-bling shouldn't be so determinant for quests. While new graphics are nice, unless it is in totally new areas (Abbinah and Freneskae, possibly others), they are better left out. Voice-acting should be used wisely, only if it is really necessary.



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30-Jun-2014 15:32:34

A Wild Zeek
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This is so true! Not only has the number of quests a year dipped, but the quality has dipped dramatically! The best quest in recent years is probably The World Wakes. But even that quest is nothing in comparison to quests like While Guthix Sleeps, Darkness of Hallowvale, and Mournings end part 2. And the worst thing is, they started an ENTIRE new storyline, without even finishing their current ones! Quest lines like the elven and myreque have been going on for over a decade! The gnome story hasnt been concluded either, and theyve completely abandoned King Arthur and his knights. At this rate, we wont see the end of the sixth age until like 2030 with the amount of quests we get. Jagex should just ditch voice acting and the current crappy style of quests and go back to the classic style. PPlaying quests like Darkness of Hallowvale and Legacy of Seergaze actually made me into the storyline, and WANT to finish it. Quests nowadays are more of a chore then One Small Favor (Yea, I said it). Put the sixth age on hold, and finish the stories people actually want to see an end to.

30-Jun-2014 15:37:26

Lord Drakan
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Balustan said :
Fiksii said :
Balustan said :


Don't see why it's a problem, not all quests are going to be small and recycling. If we don't allow new landmass we'll be stuck with the over-flooded main map even longer. Just because it takes a quest to get some actual new land doesn't mean that it should be canned because the land made the quest look so expensive compared to small ones.

Also maybe I'm off but this year so far is pretty even with 2006 in terms of total amount of updates, and I'd still believe us getting 8 quests for now. We'll see.


Well they could use space better in quite a lot of places. Also I agree they have to add landmasses at some point but to add dungeons rather than actual surface locations is a problem with that. If we can get 2 excellent quests over 1 excellent quest i will always go for the 2.

My viewpoint is from 2008 mainly and that is the standard I take because it was a fantastic year. Also the updates we see these days are generally far smaller than updates of the past to the point some I wouldn't consider worthy of newsposts.

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New areas are fine - new graphics are the problem. Recycling them would help a lot. Or mixing existing graphics, recolouring them, etc. to create quasi new environments. It's still look novel-ish without costing so much.

And Azzhat ftw. I am never removing it! (also Ere* has a lighter skin tone :P )
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30-Jun-2014 15:39:47

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