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Oct

2005

Dadizar

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Viral Grim said :
Rohiit said :
Dadizar said :
Some analogies to explain why i voted no for prestige:

If prestige was used in football, the score would be reset at half time to make it fair.

If prestige was used in baseball, the score would be reset at the end of every inning to make it fair.

If prestige was used in basketball, the score would be reset every quarter to make it fair.

If prestige was used in a marathon, times would be reset at every mile marker to make it fair.

Is prestige a serious way to open up competition?

Ahahaha that was really a good joke mate.

this is not how you look at it, this is a stupid thing to say. the prestige thing is there once you have completed a skill not got half way through it you spanner. the scores reset after every game and is what should happen here!!

I, and apparently many others, look at prestige as you being able to leap-frog in high scores past 12,043 others in attack, 67,720 in defense, 75,994 in strength, 30,317 in constitution, 10,897 in ranging, 42,883 in prayer, 23,195 in magic, 43,711 in cooking, 66,240 in woodcutting, 45,528 in wood cutting, and 35,572 in summoning, by simply pressing the reset button. Experience does not stop at level 99 and to say RuneScape is over once level 99 is reached is disingenuous.

Prestige is a way that people that cannot compete, but need to see themselves highly ranked, can jump to the top of high scores without really doing anything.

What utter nonsense.

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20-Oct-2013 09:36:10

Ferenc2017

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Zebub said :

Oh and to the kids who keep tantruming about it being optional: skill capes are optional, max capes are optional, comp capes are optional, but everyone wants them. Take a lesson in psychology before saying it is optional. Everybody here in forums succumbed under the group pressure to have at least one 99, so you can play with the "big boys". Everybody here don't want to be left behind.

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20-Oct-2013 09:44:21

Zebub

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Lord G Rahl said :
Zebub said :
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I believe the prestige system does give advantages over time...

I don't understand something, it is very clear that reaching the top tier of prestige will take a lot more xp than the current 200 mil. As you reset your lvls, you will need to use the lower lvl methods to regain all the xp back to 99. So basically it is more xp and will take more time than raising the lvl cap.

Way to go to destroy your own argumentation...
and only those playing the game for 50 years would reach that top tier. and you learn how to level those lower levels faster each time.

also there is a level cap, 99 at a certain prestige will always take 200 mil total in the skill to obtain 99. not sure how this works, but maybe on prestige 9 or so, you start out with lvl 50 in the skill?
Which is exactly the issue, this encourages no-lifing and unhealthy playing. Not even talking about how some maniacs will resort to illegal methods (account sharing and botting).

Unless Jagex continuously make lower lvls easier to gain, you'll roughly take the same time to lvl everything all over again.

200 mil xp is lvl 120, not 99. While your 99 total xp keeps increasing, I doubt it will ever reach 200 mil total.

No such thing is said, you'll always start from scratch.

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20-Oct-2013 09:48:28

Zebub

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Viral Grim said :
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I think all level 120 would be better then having prestige. That's just my opinion. That would mean more Content, and still have lots of goals for lots of players.
then what happens once you get 120. your stuck at it and the problem is still there.
I don't care what level it is to max but the OPTION should still be there to reset your skills.
This game needs to end some day, it is unhealthy to have an indefinite loop of xp. It is better to raise the cap with new capes like grandmastery cape, grandmaster max cape and grandmaster comp cape.

200 mil xp on all skills is a goal out of reach for the majority of RSers, why ruining the economy for everybody else? Look at hiscores: only 19 people have 200 mil Agility xp, only 28 have 200 mil Slayer xp, nobody has all skills 200 mil. Skills get added regularly, two this year alone. Raising the level cap does keep people busy for quite some time + recognition for their endurance + giving them an advantage (in some skills).

It is incredibly selfish to ruin the economy for 20 - 60 people on a total population of hundred thousands!

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20-Oct-2013 09:52:00 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2013 10:03:23 by Zebub

hanyo

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Level 120 is 104,273,167 xp. 200,000,000 xp is level 126.

"That’s not all, though. To really separate the legendary from the merely awesome, the amount of XP you need to level up increases by 100% of the base total for every time you’ve reset the skill. That means that reaching 99 for the second time takes 26M, reaching 99 for the third time takes 39M, and so on. That increase will be spread across all levels, so it takes two, three, four times as long to reach each individual level as well as to reach 99."

That means that at some point after 3 prestige but before you get 4 you will have passed the amount of experience needed for a 120 skill.

20-Oct-2013 10:24:41

Oct

2010

T R I X

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Stop it Jagex!!!! I dont want your prestige or anything similiar to it. I dont want to be forced to play your game all my life. I don't want to be forced to developed an unhealthy gameplay or waste my entire life just trying to play catch up to those who are years ahead of me!! I might developed an attention deficient disorder cause of this and might end up suing you guys. So please don't ruin my favorite game!!!! The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.

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20-Oct-2013 10:58:58 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2013 11:07:32 by T R I X

Aug

2004

Horsa

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There is no question that for certain players, I'll leave it to JAGEX to determine how many, being at or near the top of the rankings is the reason for playing RS in the first place. Unfortunately, currently the struggle for the top has been replaced by stagnation due to the large number of "ties" on the tables. However, the proposed "Prestige" solution adds unnecessary complication to a once simple game that is already growing too complicated. I would suggest that the best way to break the deadlock at the top of the high scores tables would involve two simple changes.

1. Remove the 200m XP cap. As it stands, there's really not much point in working a skill if there's no way for you or others to see your improvement.

2. Make the top level in all skills open ended. I'm sure you all have noticed the exponential nature of the relationship between XP and levels. Keep that relationship and project it out past the current top. As a practical matter, no one is going to get much higher than level 150 or so. Keep the current skill capes for mastery at levels 99 and add another at level 120 for skills other than Dungeoneering. I thought that an idea proposed on an earlier post to somehow reflect XP gained in the skill cape, perhaps with stars on the border, to be excellent.

I guarantee there would not be any more ties on the high scores tables. We would then see a renewed scramble for the top.

20-Oct-2013 11:29:55

Zebub

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hanyo said :
Level 120 is 104,273,167 xp. 200,000,000 xp is level 126.

"That’s not all, though. To really separate the legendary from the merely awesome, the amount of XP you need to level up increases by 100% of the base total for every time you’ve reset the skill. That means that reaching 99 for the second time takes 26M, reaching 99 for the third time takes 39M, and so on. That increase will be spread across all levels, so it takes two, three, four times as long to reach each individual level as well as to reach 99."

That means that at some point after 3 prestige but before you get 4 you will have passed the amount of experience needed for a 120 skill.
No problem at all:
one skill x 104m xp = grandmastery cape of that skill
all skills x 104m xp = grandmastery maxed cape
all skills x 200m xp = grandmastery completionist cape

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20-Oct-2013 11:31:18 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2013 11:37:07 by Zebub

Newtinboots

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I voted no to prestige. There is already a reset option which is making another account. There is a bewildering amount of content in game atm, most of which is unused/deserted. An alternative to prestige would be finding a way to link accounts together maybe?

I also voted no in solidarity to those with 200m in the top positions who GOT THERE FIRST (and invariably earned that xp alot harder than these days). These people, whether active or retired have earned their ranking and the respect of the community, and absolutely do not deserve to be eclipsed by the runespan generation. Being among the first is as equally important as being the best.

If 200m these days only get you into the top 300 ranking in that skill well hard cheese. suck it up and move on.

I also find it unnerving that the seeming shift from membership model to micropayment model by Jagex is accompanied by an infinite money-sink update. Not a criticism but something that should be on people's radar.

20-Oct-2013 11:45:12

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so sad to see so much butthurt kids

after many years jagex finaly came up with idea worth implementing in game to make it a little bit more competitive skilling wise and yet all the dumbasses votes no for it

oh well atleast 07 is still somewhat competitive in highscores

20-Oct-2013 11:53:12

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