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Archaeox
Dec Member 2011

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Wilf said :
The posts are hidden to protect the fmods from seeing criticism, so you'd need to ask the other mods if they can handle reading it and not being able to respond at all.

I think some might have a meltdown tbh.

Nah. FMods know that being slated comes with the territory.
The posts are actually hidden to avoid accusations of bias and revenge in moderation.
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27-Oct-2021 19:52:30

Wilf
Jul Member 2019

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Archaeox said :
Wilf said :
The posts are hidden to protect the fmods from seeing criticism, so you'd need to ask the other mods if they can handle reading it and not being able to respond at all.

I think some might have a meltdown tbh.

Nah. FMods know that being slated comes with the territory.
The posts are actually hidden to avoid accusations of bias and revenge in moderation.

Of course they are ;)

27-Oct-2021 20:01:18

Corder
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People are generally acceptive of criticism. If you keep it fair and on point I really think the FMod will appreciate your flag. FH isn't in the most ideal state either, but it works.

That said, I think the best alternative/long term solution is this. It protects the complainants privacy and allows our purple's to help make for a bit more activity than two posts a year.
No actions from Jagex needed besides an approval of concept! Twillow said :
Iceberg said :
I'd favour seeing FMR requests moved to the Community E-Mail inbox instead, which would then allow our
purple-y
L-Mods to action FMR requests.


I'm not sure if FMR request moved to the Community E-mail inbox is the answer, but I wanted to mention that -

if the requests are moved there, that doesn't necessarily preclude/prevent a
purple-y
answer on a forums FMR sticky (one that would have only 'answers/responses' so no need for an auto hide).

Thus the equation moves to Practicality + Visibility = ? Something
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27-Oct-2021 20:50:08

Mr Brushie

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Right, so.

We have a broken system in place.

We the people of RSOF have voiced our displeasure over the system being broken.

The curator(s) of the system have, both directly (via LMods) and indirectly said pretty much: "Meh."

The system as of 27 October 2021 has absolutely nobody currently in charge of it, as Mod Kari resigned from Jagex.

We are told that Mod X and/or Mod Y might possibly maybe soon(tm) be stepping in to take over the duties of FMR.


This is where we find ourselves currently, am I correct?

28-Oct-2021 02:42:27

Corder
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Yep, current CM team hasn't really engaged with RSOF for a year, some has no forum profile... I just imagine FMR (etc) will be awful for them if they have no prior interest in forums. Life is like a camera: Just focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out, take another shot !

28-Oct-2021 02:58:00 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2021 04:50:50 by Corder

Dilbert2001
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Jagex doesn't have to designate a single Jmod to handle FMR. I remember there was a time Mods Lee and Poerkie adjudicated FMR together. Of course, they can add Mods AI, Jagexa or the likes as many social media are already employing.

The other way is Jagex doesn't have to assign any Jmods to FMR. They only need some Jmod(s) to read the comments and reply only when they think it is applicable to the message boxes of the users. This is how Reddit handles complaints of subreddit moderators. If the complainers don't receive any message from Reddit, it automatically means no action taken or actions taken but they don't need to know what have been done behind the scene.

28-Oct-2021 04:55:22 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2021 04:57:29 by Dilbert2001

Mr Brushie

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Dilbert2001 said :
Jagex doesn't have to designate a single Jmod to handle FMR. I remember there was a time Mods Lee and Poerkie adjudicated FMR together. Of course, they can add Mods AI, Jagexa or the likes as many social media are already employing.

The other way is Jagex doesn't have to assign any Jmods to FMR. They only need some Jmod(s) to read the comments and reply only when they think it is applicable to the message boxes of the users. This is how Reddit handles complaints of subreddit moderators. If the complainers don't receive any message from Reddit, it automatically means no action taken or actions taken but they don't need to know what have been done behind the scene.


So what exactly are you getting at, then? Last I looked, this isn't Reddit.

28-Oct-2021 07:38:50

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