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Archaeox
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Pis2ols said :
As I said before, I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?

Put your money where your mouth is, and do it then.
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17-Aug-2022 10:59:00

Deltaslug

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Archaeox said :
Pis2ols said :
As I said before, I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?

Put your money where your mouth is, and do it then.


+1

17-Aug-2022 13:22:02

Pis2ols
Dec Member 2023

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Archaeox said :
Pis2ols said :
As I said before, I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?

Put your money where your mouth is, and do it then.


Sure, I'd like to get a Jagex Mod to confirm that they'll make some changes around here if the same forums gets more traffic with a different moderation team.

I've already made Ely to show Mod Kari that a different site can get more item uploads than RSOF item discussion if they allowed freedom of discussion.

1.3 Million unique users later, Item Discussion is still dead even though I've brought up this point many times.
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18-Aug-2022 09:40:57 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2022 09:42:45 by Pis2ols

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Joel said :
@Pis2ols,

Your continued grudge against an FMod is clouding your ability to see the reality here. :(
...
Hey Joel, Pis2ols has absolutely a point there without a continued grudge against a forum moderator in specific.

As mentioned before in this thread there are 'unwritten rules' players bump into.

- threads 'if' they show any type of discussion
have to be constructive

- threads 'if' they show constructive discussion than it
has to make sense
to a specific group of moderators/players, if not other moderators step in and close your thread after several pages of attacks against the OP of said thread
- threads 'if' there is already one of a certain subject a
second thread about the same subject will be closed
sooner if not later even if it means that both OP's are miles apart from how to discuss that subject
- threads
are monitored by specific players
before moderators step-in and action said thread after rumours caused by these specific players

I think I do not need to mention how many times you people have tried to trash threads I have made in the past to get them off these boards because you simply can't handle criticism or a change for that matter.
Some of you moderators have an appalling appearance attempting to damage anything that they personally dislike or disagree with.

...

The RuneScape Official Forums can absolutely do without it and even than The RuneScape Community will not trust it at all other than when Jagex/JMods do return to The RuneScape Official Forums taking over control and broom this place thoroughly.

18-Aug-2022 10:10:35 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2022 10:13:10 by 2_Tron

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Joel said :
... The FMod Team today has a lot of same FMods it did many moons ago when they were a lot busier, before social media became more popular, before the GE and so on. Not to mention the forum rules were actually a lot stricter back when they were busier, they're pretty relaxed today vs years ago and we don't action even half the amount of stuff we used to because our guidelines also changed over the years to take a more relaxed approach.
...
This example of the '
Old Days
' does fly by many times.
Jagex/JMods at that given time did have a more strict approach just because Jagex were themselves protecting against the competition they were up against, in terms of innovation and other creative processes created, and thus acting against this competition that tried to undermine the works of Jagex/JMods.

Jagex/JMods weren't so much on attack modus against The RuneScape Community but more or less protecting The Company Jagex & its RuneScape Community against destruction from outside.

If a true player endured punishment than it always was for a brief moment and no hard feelings afterwards.

18-Aug-2022 10:23:25

2_Tron

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Joel said :
... But lets move past that point and onto the next; The types of chatter and discussion you're specifically referring to (in Item Discussion) was rife with arguments and constant bickering and accusations (of which you were also mixed up in), that was a problem hence why steps were taken to tackle that problem, whether you agree with those steps or not.
...
I can assure you that no matter what, if we are going to discuss merchanting, which Item Discussion is part of, than there will be many ways how that will be accomplished by so many different players, every player their own ways and bickering back & forward about the mechanics will take off and never stop.
The only solution is is to let players create their own threads and let them take off within the Rules of RuneScape & Code of Conduct and manage their own methods/mechanics unless Jagex/JMods will discover irregularities that need to be actioned.
Forum moderators need to learn to moderate the subject rather than moderate the person behind it.

18-Aug-2022 10:34:28

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Joel said :
... The RSOF is where all of those offsite communities come together into one place and as we've experienced in the past, would often times clash, hence why this thread exists in the first place.
This thread exists, same as former threads in the past, because The RuneScape Community is moderated rather than the content of The RuneScape Official Forums.
Players of The RuneScape Community for more than a decade have been called out for the smallest things happening and moderated off these boards and it just needs to stop.
Time is over ...

18-Aug-2022 10:39:30

Miu

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Pis2ols said :
I've already made Ely to show Mod Kari that a different site can get more item uploads than RSOF item discussion if they allowed freedom of discussion.

1.3 Million unique users later, Item Discussion is still dead even though I've brought up this point many times.


Dude, someone clicking an item on a price database isn't the same as someone engaging with a forum.

I do not understand why you think people saying "ins core 1203s" is a discussion. I do not understand why you think more people posting trade data is synonymous with more activity in the wider forums. Clan forums are fairly active. Clan forum activity does not translate to more activity in the forums in general. Neither does item discussions.

What happens in item discussions stays in item discussions. Or in your site. But it doesn't affect the overall health of the forums.

Pis2ols said :
I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?


This isn't "evidence."


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I agree with some of your issues raised with moderation, but your bias is clouding your judgement and undermining your argument.
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18-Aug-2022 14:30:43

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Deltaslug said :
Archaeox said :
Pis2ols said :
As I said before, I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?

Put your money where your mouth is, and do it then.


+1


+2


in 99% of your threads you've made over the years you constantly bash/flame fmods, you degrade the rsof and say how bad it is and you'll never post or come back here again - yet you still keep coming back and keep making more threads about the same topics.

and you always use the "oh and if this thread gets locked or hidden that's proof I'm right" line.

LuL






you bash the fmods and the forums, you've had hundreds of threads locked and posts hidden, you've been banned of the forums multiple times and you're still not perm banned. they still let you back here to post and you continue to follow your old patterns.
Don't trust any pc's listed, any advice or talks between posts on ID forums anymore , the Manips are let loose, especially the main one with 15+ accounts posting acting as different people.. do your own research

20-Aug-2022 16:38:38 - Last edited on 20-Aug-2022 16:52:32 by 200m Defence

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