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2_Tron

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Hey Deltaslug, let me tell you what!! For over a decade or more players have been trolling/mentioning that these RuneScape Official Forums & RuneScape are as you say as being 'dead', ... nevertheless it's still alive and running well.
In the 'Golden Ages' when thousands upon thousands of players flooded The RuneScape Official Forums there was a forum called 'Forum Feedback' also presumed to be dead being called a 'graveyuard' but that forum is also still running good and well fused together with Website Feedback into Websites & Forums.
Sooo ... :D don't worry :D .

15-Aug-2022 09:39:06

Loki
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Loki

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Pis2ols said :
If we want to revive forums all together:

1.
Change the Forum moderation team
. Nobody is going to come back to forums when you have a condescending Forum Mod who hides as many threads/comments as possible.

Not the whole moderation team, just the most disliked people of the team that made hundreds of users leave.

If a Jagex Mod wanted proof that a RuneScape forums can be popular again and would be willing to change some staff members, I would be willing to give up a few days of my time to re-code RuneScape forums on Ely.

I can say for certainty that it will be more popular because the moderation staff/rules are different. So many people have already mentioned, changing the FMod team is going to do absolutely nothing. It's the lack of updates on the forums, lack of JMods on the forums, and lack of players. Nothing else.

Also, removing "just the disliked people" is very subjective. I could hate Joel (I don't by the way), and you don't, but you hate Tren, and I don't. Who decides who gets removed? The whole idea of a popularity contest is awful. There was once a thread in the Compliments forum, where the whole concept was to vote on who you thought was a very helpful and overall community person for the forums for that month. For whatever reason, Jagex liked it at the time, and the first 2 people who won the popularity contest were given FMod, and are still FMods despite being inactive for years now.

It's a terrible idea, and will just result in people mass spam voting their friends into a position that they may or may not necessarily deserve, and leaving those who are deserving of the role, but may not have many friends to vote them in, miss out.


Sorry for the name drop Joel and Tren - the first two to pop into my mind for an example. ;)
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15-Aug-2022 10:56:39

2_Tron

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Every individual is entitled to their own opinionfor Jagex/JMods to deliberate and yes there have been many forms of Jagex/JMods trying to figure out the best options for future development of The RuneScape Official Forums and Social Media, so we just need to sit and wait. In the main time we are allowed to give our feedback about this subject.

15-Aug-2022 12:40:59

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15-Aug-2022 14:01:50

Miu

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Pis2ols said :
From what I've seen from this thread and RuneScape as a whole over the past decade, it's forum mods delegating blame to JMods and JMods delegating blame to upper management.

From what I've seen from your last few posts, this thread is just you seeking to get back at fmods because you have a persecution complex. None of your ideas will affect the forums at large, at most it'll appeal to a couple item discussion threads.

There's two conversations going on, one about what can be done to revive the forums. The other conversation is your fantasies about item discussions forum being persecuted by a FMod making up rules on the fly specifically to oppress you. There's only one of these conversations that you actually care about.

Get real.
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15-Aug-2022 14:50:42

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15-Aug-2022 17:35:20

Pis2ols
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Rooh said :

I guarantee that would have no effect whatsoever.
While JMods favour Reddit, Twitter et al over these forums, of course people are going to go there.

I feel like I've already shown that communities can be popular without Golden Crowns. As to that point, my community is much more popular than forums with the lack of the presence of some shiny crown.

As I said before, I am confident that I can create another RS forums on my own site and my version would be more popular just solely because the moderation team is different. Not sure what other evidence people need, a strawpoll?

The death of forums is not due to a lack of updates or due to any user interface errors. It's supposed to be public place for discussion, but the rules/mods prevent that.

I'm even fine with people above criticizing my character because it's supposed to be an forum. This thread is already the most popular thread in the past year because forum mods here have done a good job not over-moderating. The same can't be said outside of this thread.

If we take some of the things learned here and apply them into other threads on forums, yes forums can be popular again.

1. No over moderation of speech & no over moderation of threads that get made
2. No condescending Forum Moderators censoring posts, just open discussion with them about what went wrong

Going off #2, I particularly enjoyed discussing issues with Rooh. Even though we disagree, another Forum Mod would have definitely deleted my comments/locked my thread.

3. Lack of some notable Forum Mods that made many people quit. I do have screenshots of many instances of them kicking off veterans, but for obvious reasons I'm not allowed to post.
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16-Aug-2022 23:23:22 - Last edited on 16-Aug-2022 23:47:09 by Pis2ols

Joel
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@Pis2ols,

Your continued grudge against an FMod is clouding your ability to see the reality here. :(

The FMod Team today has a lot of same FMods it did many moons ago when they were a lot busier, before social media became more popular, before the GE and so on. Not to mention the forum rules were actually a lot stricter back when they were busier, they're pretty relaxed today vs years ago and we don't action even half the amount of stuff we used to because our guidelines also changed over the years to take a more relaxed approach.

You're trying to make an argument that FMods prevent discussion on a thread with literally 13 pages of discussion, and not only regular discussion but discussion whereby you're openly criticizing FMods and borderline singling out one.

Please tell me you see the irony in that? :P

But lets move past that point and onto the next; The types of chatter and discussion you're specifically referring to (in Item Discussion) was rife with arguments and constant bickering and accusations (of which you were also mixed up in), that was a problem hence why steps were taken to tackle that problem, whether you agree with those steps or not.

They were steps in response to a particular problem in certain forums, not just pulled out of nowhere and for no reason as you seem to continue to try and make out.

Let's not forget that offsite communities typically use chat & forum software much more up to date in terms of features vs the RSOF and not only that but exist in their own individual bubbled communities orbiting RuneScape.

The RSOF is where all of those offsite communities come together into one place and as we've experienced in the past, would often times clash, hence why this thread exists in the first place.
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