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Mrs Ana

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Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, even if certain Fmods refuse to moderate the forums, so be it as it is an issue between them and Jagex. They have the rights not to add the label in my suggestion so it doesn't even have any bearing with my label suggestion. Let the Fmods who are ready, willing and able to attend to my label suggestions at their own discretions then. Finally, something that completely makes sense in accordance with the Forum Moderator's role. Thanks for stating that ^_^ .

14-Oct-2020 19:35:32 - Last edited on 14-Oct-2020 19:36:00 by Mrs Ana

Dilbert2001
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@Mrs Ana

I clearly quoted what Jagex wrote. If you fail to interpret it the normal way, so be it.

There is even no point to argue on that as my thread is not on Fmod's responsibility on forum moderation. It has nothing to do with my thread at all. My thread is on adding a label to forum threads when the Fmods deem it helpful. If they don't want to moderate the forums they are irrelevant to my thread whatsoever. Do you have anything constructive to add to my label suggestion?

14-Oct-2020 19:38:36

Theos
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Dilbert2001 said :
Mrs Ana said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The roles of Fmods and Jmods are different. Fmods are supposed to always attend to FM reports even if no actions are taken but Jmods don't have to even read any FM reports or regular forum posts unless they are deemed to be necessary for the adjudication of FMR complaints.

Think of it this way, Fmods are like the police who respond to our 911 calls but Jmods are like the court judges who absolutely don't need to read 911 p How does this relate to what I am trying to point out to you?



"Forum Moderators

We also have Forum Moderators who do exactly as the name implies – moderate the Forums! You can find out more about Forum Moderators here."


Fmods do have to moderate the forums as Jagex officially specified. They don't have to "always" check FH but nonetheless they are required to contribute to the forum moderation efforts (unlike Jmods whose job is to only moderate FMR but not patrol all the other forums).


I just wanted to clarify, F-Mods do not have to moderate the forums and the role is entirely voluntary. There's no set expectation as far as activity, or moderating. An F-Mod can choose to engage with the community in discussions, if they prefer. I'm an F-Mod who personally prefers to engage in discussions with other forumers and I have a very "laid back" moderating approach. I think Jagex respects the nature of the voluntary role, and they're very flexible in understanding that the F-Mod role "isn't a job" and they're appreciative of us helping out with moderating and/or engaging in discussions whenever we can. We don't have to respond to FH reports, or moderate the forums at all. Jagex, on the other hand along with the CM Mods have a contractual obligation to moderate the forums and/or engage in Jagex's platforms. ;)
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14-Oct-2020 19:46:31

Theos
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Dilbert2001 said :
I have found more and more threads where OP put up misinformation and then do not post again. This leads to even more players or potentially their alts use the misinformation to spread even more misinformation.

One solution where Reddit handle this is to have their moderators adding a "misleading" tag to the thread title. I think this is what these RSOF need too.

Honestly, I think there are many elements of Reddit that would be cool changes to see on the RSOF forums. The "wish list" of items is endless. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing this.

From a practicality standpoint, I think just pointing out inaccurate information as needed in a respectful way is the best solution for now. If there were plans for a major forum overhaul, I think it would be cool if Jagex looked at adding features such as this one. I'd also like to see "upvoting and downvoting" as well. There's so much potential to modernize the forums. There's been so many great suggestions over the years in this particular forum section. Unfortunately, we always tend to hear that the forums isn't a developmental or website priority. :(
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14-Oct-2020 19:49:35

2_Tron

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Dilbert2001 said :
Mrs Ana said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Do you have anything constructive to add to my label suggestion? Sure, it has already been added numerous times, but I will quote my very first post on this thread here for you: Mrs Ana's response to your label suggestion .

Already told you bringing more traffic to the forums has nothing to do with this thread. Thanks again for nothing. :) OHHhh yes it has everything to do with your thread as what you are proposing is slamming discussions/debates/exchange of feedback into dust leaving it to become a wasteland of nothingness.

14-Oct-2020 21:16:54

CM Nick

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Okay everyone, can we please calm down and approach this subject matter in a way that's a little less heated and personal?

I don't want to see this thread dip into flaming or attacking people personally, and it's definitely tip-toeing close to the line here, so let's try and reign it in a bit. Community Manager for Jagex

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14-Oct-2020 21:48:25

Mrs Ana

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All right. Let's see if I can break down your suggestion:
Dilbert2001 said :
I have found more and more threads where OP put up misinformation and then do not post again. This leads to even more players or potentially their alts use the misinformation to spread even more misinformation. Where are these threads/examples? If the OP does not post again, then it means that the thread may be deemed abandoned and instead of adding a superfluous "misleading" tag, how about hiding the posts(s) containing "misleading" information or simply locking the thread if the contents merit it? Forum Moderators already have the necessary tools to deal with "misleading" titles/posts and we regular players have the correct venue (Forum Help) to alert them.

CM Nick already shared with us that it's simply easier to report such instances to Forum Help:
CM Nick said :
I think a simpler solution would just be to report these instances of misinformation to Forum Help, as instituting new features on the RSOF is a time consuming and arduous process, whereas using Forum Help is fairly quick, and if it's indeed damaging misinformation, it'll be cleared up/clarified, or removed. It's completely unnecessary to add an extra tool to deal with something that may currently be dealt with as is. First, by adding this extra tool, you are making the Web Team work harder for something that is not needed for these Forums to function. Second, apart from that, you are adding more work for the volunteer Forum Moderators to add a mere "misleading" tag when they are fully capable of currently hiding the post(s)/thread(s) and/or locking it. If something isn't broken, it does not have to be fixed.

14-Oct-2020 21:52:40

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