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Dilbert2001
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I have found more and more threads where OP put up misinformation and then do not post again. This leads to even more players or potentially their alts use the misinformation to spread even more misinformation.

One solution where Reddit handle this is to have their moderators adding a "misleading" tag to the thread title. I think this is what these RSOF need too.

08-Oct-2020 18:45:18

Corder
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I'd just comment and point out OP's mistake and correct them.

If the misleading information has a greater damaging impact on the community then I might hint FMods about it. Life is like a camera: Just focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out, take another shot !

08-Oct-2020 19:06:14

CM Nick

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Dilbert2001 said :
I have found more and more threads where OP put up misinformation and then do not post again. This leads to even more players or potentially their alts use the misinformation to spread even more misinformation.

One solution where Reddit handle this is to have their moderators adding a "misleading" tag to the thread title. I think this is what these RSOF need too.

I think a simpler solution would just be to report these instances of misinformation to Forum Help, as instituting new features on the RSOF is a time consuming and arduous process, whereas using Forum Help is fairly quick, and if it's indeed damaging misinformation, it'll be cleared up/clarified, or removed. Community Manager for Jagex

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08-Oct-2020 19:46:44 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2020 19:49:53 by CM Nick

Dilbert2001
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Corder said :
I'd just comment and point out OP's mistake and correct them.

If the misleading information has a greater damaging impact on the community then I might hint FMods about it.

Yes, this is what I normally do but it is hardly enough as in some cases the core idea of the thread may worth a civil discussion. However, in many situations, OP either mistakenly or intentionally put up misinformation or even disinformation to make his comment remotely palatable. My observation is in most cases in these RSOF the mods will let it slide, citing they don't know what the OP actually means.


For instance, OP of a thread may bring up a (seemingly) legitimate discussion of say "is faster in game progression good or bad"? He then misquote the actual faster progression from say 50% to 75% and then never comment on his thread again. Later on, all kinds of players join in the "discussion" and use the misinformed or disinformed 75% as a "fact" and then derail the thread further and further and further away.

While in many subreddits meant for more serious discussions like Law, Regulations, Politics etc, these threads will be deleted. However, in some more causal subs, the mods want to keep the core discussion alive while labelling the thread MISLEADING.

In the case of RSOF, I think mods should do the same too. Once in a while, I see some Fmods putting up comments correcting the misinformation/disinformation but for most times they don't... and even when they make the corrections, it won't stop more "different" users from continuing and derailing the threads citing they don't read all comments or they think the mods are wrong/lying.

So my suggestion is to have a forum tool for the mods to either label a thread MISLEADING (e.g. by adding an asterisk or displaying the texts in the thread title in a different color) to alert ALL the forum users this thread contains misinformation.

08-Oct-2020 19:55:17 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2020 19:57:21 by Dilbert2001

Corder
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Yeah I can see how that might work in Reddit.

With mods being regular players it's possible they just don't realise the information is incorrect (player experience) and choose to close the reports. I think that's a human mistake so I won't really count that in. That's not to say I disagree with your point, I just don't like the idea of adding tags.

Misleading information definitely needs to be addressed. But if I posted that, I'd much rather have someone correct it for me, than have a stamp added proving my post false without any clarification posted. I feel this will heat up the posters.
As a note, if someone refuses to edit out their misleading information and a moderator doesn't edit it out, it's probably not significant enough or they don't understand the issue. Life is like a camera: Just focus on what's important, capture the good times, develop from the negatives, and if things don't work out, take another shot !

08-Oct-2020 20:12:06 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2020 20:13:08 by Corder

Draco Burnz
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CM Nick said :


I think a simpler solution would just be to report these instances of misinformation to Forum Help, as instituting new features on the RSOF is a time consuming and arduous process, whereas using Forum Help is fairly quick, and if it's indeed damaging misinformation, it'll be cleared up/clarified, or removed.

Agreed.

Just leave it to the mods to handle if you really think its a problem.
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08-Oct-2020 21:04:14

Draco Burnz
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Stoat King said :


I would prefer a new forum rule that allowed the FMods to lock threads based on the author being an asshole. But thats just me.


Yes because that wouldnt at all lead to false accusations...

Stoat King said :


But if we are talking about the same thing, they are very easily spotted and seem to be by one person (maybe with alts).
Would the 'misleading' label work? Are they even misleading?
Ive never looked at them that way. I always thought they were just kinda spammy attempts to bait.
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If you think OP is being confusing or w/e first talk it out with them and if things dont change see about getting mod support.

No need for anything like this as it wouldnt solve the core problem.

Just because thered be a tag doesnt mean OP has to start explaining themselves to make it less misleading...
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10-Oct-2020 13:39:17 - Last edited on 10-Oct-2020 13:42:20 by Draco Burnz

Dilbert2001
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Stoat King said :
I have seen a load of threads that sound like what the OP is describing.
Not recently though.
I too am annoyed by them when I see them.

But if we are talking about the same thing, they are very easily spotted and seem to be by one person (maybe with alts).
Would the 'misleading' label work? Are they even misleading?
Ive never looked at them that way. I always thought they were just kinda spammy attempts to bait.

I would prefer a new forum rule that allowed the FMods to lock threads based on the author being an asshole. But thats just me.

Also, I'm not 100% sure that I am on the same page as OP here. May be talking at cross purposes.

Regular Fmods can't tell if the misleading posts are made by just one person with different alts. Hence, they should not make such an assumption and deny the existence of these threads if they indeed abide to the forum posting rules.

Labelling a thread misleading is just flagging it for Jmod review while making all the RSOF users aware of the REAL facts.

Spammy posts are not what we are talking about in this thread. They don't abide to forum rules and of course they should be hidden immediately. No label is needed for them.

10-Oct-2020 17:58:44

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