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Daibhi

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Uncle Pob said :

The work being done on these ideas is being carried out by a separate team to the ones which develop RuneScape; there’s no need to worry about us reducing our efforts
on our flagship game!


EDIT: Some people have commented with concerns this will replace RuneScape or mean they lose their progress. To clarify - this game is not designed to replace RuneScape at all. It is not RS4,
it would be a new game using the RuneScape brand.
RuneScape and your progress within RuneScape is here to stay![/forestgreen]

As great as all that sounds it's the wording in the quoted text that has me iffy, I hope I'm the one misinterpreting this, and how they say it isn't going to replace Runescape because that comes across to me like Jagex has never learnt from the mistake they made with RS3 and Old School (which should've never been done as it effectively segregated the community by Jagex's own hands).

When they refer to RS3 as 'our flagship game' it sounds to me like they're going to repeat history again and force us to decide where to set up shop by either sticking with RS3 or moving over to this next gen, lets face it.. it's going to be called it anyway regardless , RS4 - only this time Old School will take RSC's place and Old School will then become RS3 and RS3 will be this 'RS4'. How many times do they want to butcher the community? There aren't that many of us left to go around since the first time.

I sincerely hope that they can somehow allow account transfers from RS3 to this newer version for the sake of those of us who have been here since the beginning - especially if it's essentially going to be the same game but just more up to date. They allowed transfers of rares from RSC accounts to RS2 accounts when RS2 was introduced all those years ago, surely accounts could be given the same treatment given the fact there's some of us who have put almost 15 years into this game?

15-Oct-2018 00:47:13

Seasons Past

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Antisleeper said :

A new Runescape MMO wouldn't appeal to the OSRS playerbase, because it'd be too different.

It also wouldn't appeal to the RS3 players that have heavily invested in MTX, because they'd prefer to keep their accounts and progression.

It would, however, appeal to old RS players who have since quit either game, and would like the nostalgia of a game they used to play, but in a modern way. It would also be more appealing to absolutely new players, seeing as RS3's new-player experience is trash, and Old School likely puts some people off by its rough appearance and slow leveling.

No doubt there would be a degree of cannibalism, but not to such a degree that it wouldn't be a profitable endeavor.
I agree.

The new MMO will be unlikely to cause a mass transfer of players from the current games, as it will probably appeal most to former players who have lost interest in RuneScape and to gamers who are entirely new to the RuneScape franchise. Spirit of Forinthry ~ Runecrafting: Magic Armour ~ F2P Extensions ~ Dragon Slayer improvements ~ New Player Experience

15-Oct-2018 03:19:08

Daibhi

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Seasons Past said :
Antisleeper said :

A new Runescape MMO wouldn't appeal to the OSRS playerbase, because it'd be too different. It also wouldn't appeal to the RS3 players that have heavily invested in MTX, because they'd prefer to keep their accounts and progression.

It would, however, appeal to old RS players who have since quit either game, and would like the nostalgia of a game they used to play, but in a modern way. It would also be more appealing to absolutely new players, seeing as RS3's new-player experience is trash, and Old School likely puts some people off by its rough appearance and slow leveling.

I agree.

The new MMO will be unlikely to cause a mass transfer of players from the current games, as it will probably appeal most to former players who have lost interest in RuneScape and to gamers who are entirely new to the RuneScape franchise.

That's precisely why I say Old School should've never happened, it pandered to the people who still to this day refuse to accept change and because of that created a divide in a single community. If Jagex is going to create what will effectively be RS4 regardless of them saying it's not then, in order for it to be a success, they have to ditch the previous iterations or else history will repeat itself yet again.

This new game could be the saviour for the community which brings it back together into one single group again if Jagex plays a hard hand and doesn't budge this time round - accept change or be left behind. If they show some degree of compromise by allowing level transfers for an existing single account from either RS3 or Old School, if possible, that would be more enticing to both sides of the divide (even more so for people like myself who've been around since the beginning), because if it's essentially going to be the same game then it'll make no difference for actual new players to the game.Doing so would encourage players to move.

15-Oct-2018 10:48:42

Joch

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If old school hadn't of come the game would be dead by now look at the player counts between the 2 games. People wanted runescape as runescape not some cash cow mtx based pay to win shit, they have made bad choices with rs3 that have caused the decline in players. Old school is runescape not this thing they have created known as rs3.

15-Oct-2018 11:22:45

Daibhi

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Joch said :
If old school hadn't of come the game would be dead by now look at the player counts between the 2 games. People wanted runescape as runescape not some cash cow mtx based pay to win shit, they have made bad choices with rs3 that have caused the decline in players. Old school is runescape not this thing they have created known as rs3.

I quit the game pretty much the day EOC was first introduced back then because it threw a spanner in the works for me so you're talking to someone who pretty much followed the same mindset as those who still live by it all these years later. I absolutely detested EOC (which eventually became RS3) but after a 5+ year hiatus curiousity got the better of me so I returned and I forced myself to learn the 'new' combat system and now? I greatly prefer the newer combat system over Old School's primitive system.

People lost their shit probably because of the psychology aspect of it, not because of the game itself - I'd wager the bulk of Runescape's community is the sort of people who hate change as evidenced by how people talk about RS3 and even this potential new game. RS3 is Runescape, Old School is a cheap subpar knock off of RS3 at this point because it's long past being recognisable to the RS2 I played from day one all the way back in 2001 until EOC was intrdocued.

You mention the player numbers? If Jagex didn't bend over backwards and go ahead with Old School those players who initially hated EOC, just like myself, would have returned and eventually warmed up to it; those who wouldn't have returned? Well.. they wouldn't have. The outcome though? A single community not segregated by its own developers hands in one game which would encourage the numbers to only increase instead of splitting into two categories.

Jagex shot themselves in the foot with Old School and they're going to find that out if they don't figure out a way to bring the two back together again.

15-Oct-2018 11:53:16

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^ I agree. If they had stuck to their plan and only did security patches for OS, eventually it would have staled, and people would have either come to RS3 or quit, but I believe more would have eventually come to the more modern game.

Also, this community gripes whenever Jagex mentions "engine work" but realistically, it cannot be easy to maintain a game, the code to which has gone through several dev hands, who had different ideas of coding standards, it needs to be reworked at this point.

It's going to get to a point where the code costs more to maintain than what they are making.

15-Oct-2018 14:42:21

RickTheSloth
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I have some news on this which may or may not be news, but it's news to me. So I've been doing some heavy investigating for the past month now and there is currently a job posting on the Jagex website for the "unannounced MMO" for a "Technical Director - Unreal 4." So two things from this have been revealed. One, the unannounced mmo (RuneScape Remastered) is definitely being made in Unreal Engine 4 which was still up in the air because the majority of postings for the unannounced mmo were for both Unity and Unreal Engine. Second, the new MMO is definitely either in full-scale production as of this point OR will soon be. The reason this is the case is because a technical director position would not be posted unless it was in full-scale development. Technical Director Job Description - The technical director is responsible for establishing a link between the artistic vision of the game and its technical implementation. Technical directors are also responsible for developing new techniques to overcome obstacles during the production of the game. Essentially pre-production phase is over and they are now starting to put everything they have on paper (figuratively/Non-figuratively) in to the new game. This is a HUGE step from where we were when Mod Balance confirmed over a year ago RuneScape Remastered was in "pre-production stage" and there was no promises that this project would make it out of that (such as becoming scrapped). That being said I'm super stoked that this is actually happening. I'm just hoping that they don't half ass the game with fear that it will be a flop. Heck Elder Scrolls originally flopped, but now it's one of the most popular MMO's out there now. Honestly at this point this will be what will either bring Jagex to the next level of game producers or they will stay the same and slowly die out after a 15-20 year period. "
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13-Jan-2019 08:09:53

RickTheSloth
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ALSO PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF ANY JMOD IS READING THIS, FIGHT WITH ALL YOUR HEART AGAINST OUR ASIAN OVERLORD'S AND SAY NO NON-COSMETIC MTX'S OR "CONVENIENCE SERVICES" FOR THE NEW MMO. THIS LITERALLY WILL BE THE MAKE OR BREAK FOR THE GAME FOR ME PERSONALLY AND I WOULD SAFELY ASSUME MANY OTHERS. I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH. I LOVE RS3 WITH A BURNING PASSION, BUT MTX'S (ALTHOUGH NECESSARY AT ONE POINT TO KEEP RS AFLOAT - NOT SO MUCH NOW EXCEPT FOR MAXIMIZING PROFITS) SHOULD NOT GIVE IN-GAME BENEFITS (aside from bonds).


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13-Jan-2019 08:26:35 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2019 08:43:59 by RickTheSloth

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