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MangaFreak
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Bunny Sex said :
I agree this yak track is very sad with most of it's rewards in general. There really isn't anything appealing to me to buy bonds for premier except the xp boost.

Regarding the oddment store that's just a flop on jagex's side in general with little to no thinking of future repercussions. They constantly have TH events that give alot of oddments and saw that people saving them for 60 keys for good promos wasn't good, but like i said jagex never put thought into it. Removing half of the teles/cosmetics/key limit and other stuff IMO is going in the wrong direction and is showing their players they care for money more.

Now i'm not saying jagex shouldn't be trying to make money for their studio and employees. However with the amount of people they had on FSW who most likely already had a member account paid for, they should've seen a nice gain in income but still push buying bonds onto players. Its honestly gotten to a point where they refuse to answer legitimate and continuous issues with their client but will throw everything they can at selling bonds. Sad direction this company has gone in the past 10 years and their player base shows it.

Lastly, IDK why the fuck y'all are arguing with dilbert *jagex's unacknowledged and unwanted shield* but if you haven't noticed by now this guy has a massive hard on for jagex. According to him jagex does nothing wrong and everything they do is A-ok and fails to admit when he's wrong. I mean he has 24k post on forums which would lead you to believe he does nothing but sit on forums to prove jagex is always right. Better off just ignoring the child.

this is exactly why i tend to ignore him and draco burnz on the forums. literally do nothing but argue back and forth when you were just giving a solid opinion on something. i also agree that these yak coins are bs. even just getting the new cosmetics with the coins is going to take forever.
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08-Dec-2022 21:19:10

Stormhawk
Jun Member 2011

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Eubergibbon said :
This thread is clearly about Yak track as the title indicates and not ALL the cosmetics that were available via oddments store.

Trying to get my head around this as a current premier member.

Does that mean as a paying member, but not a premier member, the player will receive no cosmetics from yak track at all?

What if you are have a maxed membership account but not a premier member... does this mean there is no value to completing Yak for that portion of the player base?

Does this deprecate the value of Yak track for iron accounts?

in accounts to your inquire,
1, only if they buy the bonds with irl cash or pay 10's of millions of thier in game currency to obtain premium track pass.
2, this would apply to the free track if non premier members haven't already purchased bonds for the premium track so yes it would be pointless.
3, yes most likely if the premium track isn't available at all to iron accounts.

in all its total bs as i refuse to spend my entire bank on yak track again in order to gain a few shiny cosmetics that could be split equally between both tracks.
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08-Dec-2022 22:05:07

Stormhawk
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Bunny Sex said :
I agree this yak track is very sad with most of it's rewards in general. There really isn't anything appealing to me to buy bonds for premier except the xp boost.

Regarding the oddment store that's just a flop on jagex's side in general with little to no thinking of future repercussions. They constantly have TH events that give alot of oddments and saw that people saving them for 60 keys for good promos wasn't good, but like i said jagex never put thought into it. Removing half of the teles/cosmetics/key limit and other stuff IMO is going in the wrong direction and is showing their players they care for money more.

Now i'm not saying jagex shouldn't be trying to make money for their studio and employees. However with the amount of people they had on FSW who most likely already had a member account paid for, they should've seen a nice gain in income but still push buying bonds onto players. Its honestly gotten to a point where they refuse to answer legitimate and continuous issues with their client but will throw everything they can at selling bonds. Sad direction this company has gone in the past 10 years and their player base shows it.

Lastly, IDK why the fuck y'all are arguing with dilbert *jagex's unacknowledged and unwanted shield* but if you haven't noticed by now this guy has a massive hard on for jagex. According to him jagex does nothing wrong and everything they do is A-ok and fails to admit when he's wrong. I mean he has 24k post on forums which would lead you to believe he does nothing but sit on forums to prove jagex is always right. Better off just ignoring the child.

thank you for your valid points. especially the very last one. i don't think jagex wants a gaurd dog. but i hope they have sum appreciation for thier customer base to make "improvements" on thier next yak track season.
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08-Dec-2022 22:07:40

RiDaku
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There are a lot of users who haunt the forums with vested interest, racking up unbelievable post count each day, present solely to serve as a contrarian. Equivalent to trolls, they really just approach in bad faith every time and derail threads gradually. This is a good example of that. For your health and the integrity of your conversations, learn to spot them and then ignore their posts, no matter how tasty it might seem to bite the bait. The Sicarius |
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08-Dec-2022 23:39:18

Dilbert2001
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Eubergibbon said :
This thread is clearly about Yak track as the title indicates and not ALL the cosmetics that were available via oddments store.

Trying to get my head around this as a current premier member.

Does that mean as a paying member, but not a premier member, the player will receive no cosmetics from yak track at all?

What if you are have a maxed membership account but not a premier member... does this mean there is no value to completing Yak for that portion of the player base?

Does this deprecate the value of Yak track for iron accounts?

We can always buy bonds with in game gp to access the Premier Tier of Yak Tracks.

There is also nowhere Jagex mentioned anything Yack Track items will be exclusive to Yack Tracks or Yak Coins.

Yack Track always have values in free and premier tracks. Note that rewards changed the a lot the last few Yak Tracks. In some Yak Tracks we have Oddments rewards and in the other we have cosmetics and no oddments. There are always values in both free and premier tracks. We know for sure there will be xp and other useful items like minigame currencies that even maxed players may need.

08-Dec-2022 23:50:08

Lions RAWR
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Eubergibbon said :
Trying to get my head around this as a current premier member.
Does that mean as a paying member, but not a premier member, the player will receive no cosmetics from yak track at all?

Yep. From the looks of it, you can only get access to the cosmetics from the premier side of the yak track an not the free side ( regardless if you are an paying member of RS )

Basically Jagex is milking the player base who do not get premier membership by making them buy premier pass for 2 bonds each yak track to get the cosmetics that they may want ( premier pass is the only way to get the yak coins too). Time to follow an trail of Treasure.
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09-Dec-2022 05:44:49

Lions RAWR
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Dilbert2001 said :
Eubergibbon said :
This thread is clearly about Yak track as the title indicates and not ALL the cosmetics that were available via oddments store.

Trying to get my head around this as a current premier member.

Does that mean as a paying member, but not a premier member, the player will receive no cosmetics from yak track at all?

What if you are have a maxed membership account but not a premier member... does this mean there is no value to completing Yak for that portion of the player base?

Does this deprecate the value of Yak track for iron accounts?


(1)We can always buy bonds with in game gp to access the Premier Tier of Yak Tracks.

(2)There is also nowhere Jagex mentioned anything Yack Track items will be exclusive to Yack Tracks or Yak Coins.




(1)-Were does the person who you quoted talk about Bonds at all? Why did you inject that into the conversation when the post was about the value of the Yak track to non premier members or those who do not buy premier pass? not everyone can afford to get two bonds each time.

(2)-I am pretty sure the Yak store will be the go to place for all things Yak track going forward. They may not have spelled out the words " exclusive" but I am pretty sure it will be.

I get it though. Everything that Jagex does according to you is perfect and has an answer to everything. Though this yak track is by far the worse one of the 13 that we have gotten so far. Time to follow an trail of Treasure.
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09-Dec-2022 06:05:21 - Last edited on 09-Dec-2022 06:05:55 by Lions RAWR

Rikornak
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I must say I do prefer the yak coin system over the grubby loot box mechanic from the last track, but basically removing all the stuff from the oddment store instead was more than just a low blow (especially considering they massively devalued oddments a couple of weeks prior to that even more).

I do not see an issue though, that those coins are temporarily, when they literally say that so - what do you even want to keep them for, if you didn't intend to get some reward you missed out on the past - one from this track, you literally would all have by the times you can even earn them in sufficient numbers? There are enough 'premium' currencies cluttering the currency pouch for promotions they'll probably never run again. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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09-Dec-2022 06:23:23

Megycal
Sep Member 2005

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The yak coin is better than the awful yak sack which relied on rng to get anything nice. However I doubt I will get enough coins for all 3 new cosmetics. The only people able to get lots of coins will either play all the time or, more likely, buy skips with bonds. Bring back the yak tracks where simply completing the tasks ( specific skill or skill and kill ) earned the rewards!

09-Dec-2022 10:02:05 - Last edited on 09-Dec-2022 10:02:43 by Megycal

Rikornak
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It's basically not even 3 cosmetics you have to gain this way - the cape is a tradeable statless item (so you have to sacrifice a keepsake key if you want to use it as an override), which for this time I wouldn't even expect to be too expensive and you're receiving a decent amount of coins (enough for the pet or already significant progress towards the quake animation. It is more to do than in the previous iterations, but at least it still is a 'predictable' more.

I am fairly sure they currently are experimenting on how they could press out even more money out of the track. It's always important to keep this in mind: This isn't actual content, it's a MTX promotion. Either we'll see further (or altered) experiments in the upcoming tracks or they'll stick to either of the tested systems - at best the coins, at worst the sacks. Albeit never say worst - there are games, which got rid of their loot box systems and players suddenly wanted them back, since the follow-up was even more atrocious. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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09-Dec-2022 11:16:12

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