RuneScape Forum Archive | Anti-skiller tax

Jun

2022

Ruby_Red0

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If complaints regarding the 2% tax & its creating further inequity between player communities are truly as insignifcant as some chaim, then one would really have to wonder why it is needed at all.

Its insignificant except when it is significant? lol

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19-Jan-2023 20:59:14 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 21:00:18 by Ruby_Red0

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ruby_Red0 said :
If complaints regarding the 2% tax & its creating further inequity between player communities are truly as insignifcant as some chaim, then one would really have to wonder why it is needed at all.

Its insignificant except when it is significant? lol

Who are complaining about the "inequity" between players communities? I don't see anybody even talking about it in the game RS3 and any social media outside the RSOF.

19-Jan-2023 21:06:59 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 21:07:19 by Dilbert2001

Jun

2022

Ruby_Red0

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Dilbert2001 said :
Ruby_Red0 said :
If complaints regarding the 2% tax & its creating further inequity between player communities are truly as insignifcant as some chaim, then one would really have to wonder why it is needed at all.

Its insignificant except when it is significant? lol

Who are complaining about the "inequity" between players communities? I don't see anybody even talking about it in the game RS3 and any social media outside the RSOF.

So?

There were a few people complaining at the GE last night. Perhaps you only hang out with people that wouldnt complain. Perhaps because you want things to stay like they currently are, you are not looking to see.

The Runescape Forums are the place to complain. This is the home of 'Powers that Be".

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19-Jan-2023 21:11:17 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 21:12:19 by Ruby_Red0

Nov

2003

A Cole

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The players missing out the most are players who are good at PvM, and those who use the GE a lot, aka merchants.

I've already proven that skillers are almost completely unaffected by the change.

The only players to potentially gain from this, if not break even, are those that are bad at PvM.

The convenience fee is considerable en masse, but at the individual level it's almost negligible.

~A~

19-Jan-2023 21:15:11

Dec

2021

Mel 624

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It'd make sense for gold sinks to be directly targeted at the actual sources of gold generation rather than the entire playerbase as a whole. If PvM and alching are major sources then PvM and alching should be what gets taxed. I just don't see why players who aren't generating new gold into the game should be paying for the ones that are. Toning down gold generation from TH and events also seems like something they could've done instead. How to block a forum user

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19-Jan-2023 21:22:27

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ruby_Red0 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Ruby_Red0 said :
If complaints regarding the 2% tax & its creating further inequity between player communities are truly as insignifcant as some chaim, then one would really have to wonder why it is needed at all.

Its insignificant except when it is significant? lol

Who are complaining about the "inequity" between players communities? I don't see anybody even talking about it in the game RS3 and any social media outside the RSOF.

So?

There were a few people complaining at the GE last night. Perhaps you only hang out with people that wouldnt complain. Perhaps because you want things to stay like they currently are, you are not looking to see.

The Runescape Forums are the place to complain. This is the home of 'Powers that Be".

Why didn't they go to Falador Park? We don't even see a screenshot. How can I be "looking to see" when there is nothing to see?

Plenty of OSRS players used to protest against their GE Tax and they rioted in Falador Park, but after a while nobody is complaining. Why should RS3 players care now if they didn't complain 2 weeks ago?

19-Jan-2023 21:22:46

Jun

2022

Ruby_Red0

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Dilbert2001 said :
Why should RS3 players care now if they didn't complain 2 weeks ago?

Im not sure that is true, however, if a playerbase feels a certain segment of the population is the only group that seems to be heard, favored and get action, why would they bother?

Im seriously not playing long enough to know. Just like I dont understand why there are these things call party hats/phats, that do absolutely nothing to enhance gameplay, yet are one of the most precious items in the game. Makes no sense. No other game has that.

There are a lot of quirks to Runescape that other games neither have nor tolerate. Like this public need to tax the players for what one small segment does in the game.

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19-Jan-2023 22:31:35

Jun

2022

Ruby_Red0

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Mel 624 said :
It'd make sense for gold sinks to be directly targeted at the actual sources of gold generation rather than the entire playerbase as a whole.

If PvM and alching are major sources then PvM and alching should be what gets taxed.

I just don't see why players who aren't generating new gold into the game should be paying for the ones that are.

Toning down gold generation from TH and events also seems like something they could've done instead.

The only difference seeming to be that a certain group wont feel special.

Get your shoes on Mel. You are supposed to be dying to go PvM nao. ^_^

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19-Jan-2023 22:33:40

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ruby_Red0 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Why should RS3 players care now if they didn't complain 2 weeks ago?

Im not sure that is true, however, if a playerbase feels a certain segment of the population is the only group that seems to be heard, favored and get action, why would they bother?

Im seriously not playing long enough to know. Just like I dont understand why there are these things call party hats/phats, that do absolutely nothing to enhance gameplay, yet are one of the most precious items in the game. Makes no sense. No other game has that.

There are a lot of quirks to Runescape that other games neither have nor tolerate. Like this public need to tax the players for what one small segment does in the game.

If you have played long enough in Runescape or OSRS you should know our playerbase has a rather unique way to tell Jagex what they don't like - riot in Falador Park but obviously we didn't hear even a cricket.

Besides, if there was any concern for a big integrity update on the economy, we would have heard from RS3 about it already. No news means nothing needs to be addressed. The GE tax is 2%, nothing needs to be changed.

19-Jan-2023 23:13:27

Sep

2013

Fish Kitten

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Mel 624 said :
If PvM and alching are major sources then PvM and alching should be what gets taxed.

Did you read this ?

Alchemy represents around 58% of gold being created from thin air. Another 21.5% is coming into the game from sell-to-store gp, which is essentially low alch since that what's general stores pay for items. That said, approximately 80% of ALL the gold inflating the system comes from alchemy. On the other hand, PVM only accounts for about 12% of gold generation.

On the other side of that, deaths, item degradation costs and boss instances (all relative to PVM) represent about 67% of gold disappearing from the game.

The way it was prior to the update was disproportionately weighted *against* PVM, whereas PVM was carrying the majority of the lagging gold sink, yet was responsible for only a small portion of gold generated. In other words, the old system was completely broken in terms of fairness.

As explained in that same link above, getting a valuable drop from PVM doesn't contribute to the game's total inflation burden if that item is sold to another player , since the money to purchase it merely moves from one player to the other (i.e zero sum). Because most people aren't going to alch billion or even million dollar drops, PVM isn't a major source of actual gold generation. The root cause of game inflation/devaluation of GP is alchemy in one form or another.

19-Jan-2023 23:43:24 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 23:47:51 by Fish Kitten