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Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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Jil L said :
Dilbert2001 said :
thuhbadguy said :
Every Runescape Pure Skiller now gets to help pay for the death costs of the combat fighters because of Jagex's unfair tax.


But how many of the over 320 mil registered Runescape players are pure skillers?


Then why darkscape was a failure? How many of the over 320 mil registered rs players are still playing?


Skillers are the silent hard core of this game, this is why jagex always gives us for granted and continuously adds new content that's meant for fighters only.

It's becoming frustrating, seriously.


(1) Darkscape was legacy mode only and hardly anybody played legacy mode in RS3.
(2) Darkscape is a pvp oriented game, hardly anything to do with skillers, let alone pure skillers.
(3) Darkscape is not RS3. It shares nothing with RS3's economy at all.

11-Jan-2023 17:45:45

Emberwind
Jan Member 2022

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Impex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Apparently you don't realize plenty of pvm items in RS3 are created by skillers, for instance, scrimshaws and all pop gear, divine charges, endgame potions etc. Without the inventors, summoners and archaeologists, all pvmers will be trash. :D

This is one of the reasons skillers could do with a bit more appreciation from Jagex, instead of them mostly releasing combat focused content.


It’s simply because it take more brain cells to create skilling contents. Meanwhile, combat contents are easier to come up with.

-Krystelle

12-Jan-2023 00:04:01

Jil L
Aug Member 2005

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Dilbert2001 said :
Jil L said :
Dilbert2001 said :
thuhbadguy said :
Every Runescape Pure Skiller now gets to help pay for the death costs of the combat fighters because of Jagex's unfair tax.


But how many of the over 320 mil registered Runescape players are pure skillers?


Then why darkscape was a failure? How many of the over 320 mil registered rs players are still playing?


Skillers are the silent hard core of this game, this is why jagex always gives us for granted and continuously adds new content that's meant for fighters only.

It's becoming frustrating, seriously.


(1) Darkscape was legacy mode only and hardly anybody played legacy mode in RS3.
(2) Darkscape is a pvp oriented game, hardly anything to do with skillers, let alone pure skillers.
(3) Darkscape is not RS3. It shares nothing with RS3's economy at all.


I see you dramatically missed the point. By continuously spoiling pkers and pvmers Jagex is constantly ruining its game. They gave pkers the darkspace and it was a failure jagex invested some rl money on.

You talked about 320 mil registered accounts. Most of them no longer play. I remember a time when it was mostly impossible to join servers for they were all full. At that time there were like 1-2 new quests ea month.

It is the past, a golden age before some serious strategic mistakes made by Jagex.
Skillers are the hard core of this game, this is why they tax GE transactions in order to reduce the gold in the game.

12-Jan-2023 09:05:46

Jil L
Aug Member 2005

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Emberwind said :
Impex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Apparently you don't realize plenty of pvm items in RS3 are created by skillers, for instance, scrimshaws and all pop gear, divine charges, endgame potions etc. Without the inventors, summoners and archaeologists, all pvmers will be trash. :D

This is one of the reasons skillers could do with a bit more appreciation from Jagex, instead of them mostly releasing combat focused content.


It’s simply because it take more brain cells to create skilling contents. Meanwhile, combat contents are easier to come up with.

-Krystelle


I have nothing against new combat content. I mean I surrendered a long ago to the fact jagex spend more rl money in combat contents for they are easier to create. I accept this.
But it was real life money. Now they are using skillers' gold to support pvmers. The next level of spoiling.

12-Jan-2023 09:10:40 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2023 09:11:37 by Jil L

Killashandra
Dec Member 2005

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Jil L said :
Emberwind said :
Impex said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Apparently you don't realize plenty of pvm items in RS3 are created by skillers, for instance, scrimshaws and all pop gear, divine charges, endgame potions etc. Without the inventors, summoners and archaeologists, all pvmers will be trash. :D

This is one of the reasons skillers could do with a bit more appreciation from Jagex, instead of them mostly releasing combat focused content.


It’s simply because it take more brain cells to create skilling contents. Meanwhile, combat contents are easier to come up with.

-Krystelle


I have nothing against new combat content. I mean I surrendered a long ago to the fact jagex spend more rl money in combat contents for they are easier to create. I accept this.
But it was real life money. Now they are using skillers' gold to support pvmers. The next level of spoiling.


Totally agree. I'm sure that pvmers will be selling their items outside the GE to avoid the tax while skillers don't have time to do that - bankstanding is a waste of time for skillers. So the only people who will really be paying the tax will be skillers - again, skillers pay for pvmers.

I acknowledge that some people may be encouraged to pvm because of the reduced death costs but some of us don't pvm just because we don't like fighting bosses so I, for one, will never benefit from the reduced death costs or the better drops that pvmers continue to get from Jagex.

I think that Jagex are trying to get new players and I don't blame them for that but they are forgetting, as you said, that the core of this game is skillers and we don't make as much noise as pvmers, all we do is quietly stop playing!

12-Jan-2023 13:18:55

The Kaiser
May Member 2014

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What Jagex needs to do is remove most of the skilling items from the drop tables in PVM such as herbs, logs, fish, etc.
This would allow the skillers to maintain good value for the work they put into the game and keeping the PVMers killing.

This would also make it more worth while for players who don't participate in much PVM to still obtain better equipment through the use of skilling if they so wish.

PVM drops should include more items that would enhance skilling so the PVMers in get something in return.

12-Jan-2023 14:50:25

Pentine
Jul Member 2007

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Jil L said :
I totally agree.

Jagex does not understand some ppls don't do pvm just because they are not so interested in this part of the game and reducing death cost won't change their minds

As a skiller I feel betrayed once again because we are going to pay the price of jagex continuously petting PvMers, as usual.

What about Darkscape? Was it a success or just a waste of money?


Jagex why don't you compensate reduced death costs by reducing monsters drops ? Why do skillers have to pay a benefit for fighters?

Why does combat seem to be the only way to get rs cash while skilling must be a money sink? In real life wars are a money sink.


Jagex, since it's plain to see we are second-class players, why don't you get us a discounted membership?

:@


This exactly! I've always been a skiller. Over the past years, I've seen the prices of items I made or gathered someway or the other go down further and further, up to the point where a skiller can now hardly make money any more. The main reason? Jagex putting items that used to come from skillers ingame via monster drops.

A lot of prices have crashed over the past two years. It almost seems the only way to make money these days is by bossing. And the hardworking skillers can busy themselves with the leftovers. And now Jagex punishes us even more by adding the 2%, it's stupid.

12-Jan-2023 18:15:00

Pentine
Jul Member 2007

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The Kaiser said :
What Jagex needs to do is remove most of the skilling items from the drop tables in PVM such as herbs, logs, fish, etc.
This would allow the skillers to maintain good value for the work they put into the game and keeping the PVMers killing.

This would also make it more worth while for players who don't participate in much PVM to still obtain better equipment through the use of skilling if they so wish.

PVM drops should include more items that would enhance skilling so the PVMers in get something in return.


This is a very good idea!

12-Jan-2023 18:41:36

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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Jil L said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Jil L said :
Dilbert2001 said :
thuhbadguy said :
Every Runescape Pure Skiller now gets to help pay for the death costs of the combat fighters because of Jagex's unfair tax.


But how many of the over 320 mil registered Runescape players are pure skillers?


Then why darkscape was a failure? How many of the over 320 mil registered rs players are still playing?


Skillers are the silent hard core of this game, this is why jagex always gives us for granted and continuously adds new content that's meant for fighters only.

It's becoming frustrating, seriously.


(1) Darkscape was legacy mode only and hardly anybody played legacy mode in RS3.
(2) Darkscape is a pvp oriented game, hardly anything to do with skillers, let alone pure skillers.
(3) Darkscape is not RS3. It shares nothing with RS3's economy at all.


I see you dramatically missed the point. By continuously spoiling pkers and pvmers Jagex is constantly ruining its game. They gave pkers the darkspace and it was a failure jagex invested some rl money on.

You talked about 320 mil registered accounts. Most of them no longer play. I remember a time when it was mostly impossible to join servers for they were all full. At that time there were like 1-2 new quests ea month.

It is the past, a golden age before some serious strategic mistakes made by Jagex.
Skillers are the hard core of this game, this is why they tax GE transactions in order to reduce the gold in the game.


Darkscape was a totally separate game from RS3. If you think Jagex is continously spoiling pkers and pvmers in Darkscape it was Jagex, not RS3. Shrug! Not many players were skillers in Darkscape anyway.

12-Jan-2023 19:22:45

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