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Apr

2020

Astrazak

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NecroFangz said :
=+= Community Joining =+=
Clan Name:

The Dark Horizon

Members: 8
Leader: (Title TBA) Artemis B
Representative: SolarMagus
Starting Capital: Darkmeyer
QFC: TBA

Loremaster: Artemis B

Thank you for reapplying, Loon Loon.

TSV is going to withhold its vote until you guys post up a thread. We just want to check out your lore, and see what direction you plan to take it in.

20-Feb-2017 22:58:39

Jun

2014

Sora Verus

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Astrazak said :
NecroFangz said :
=+= Community Joining =+=
Clan Name:

The Dark Horizon

Members: 8
Leader: (Title TBA) Artemis B
Representative: SolarMagus
Starting Capital: Darkmeyer
QFC: TBA

Loremaster: Artemis B

Thank you for reapplying, Loon Loon.

TSV is going to withhold its vote until you guys post up a thread. We just want to check out your lore, and see what direction you plan to take it in.

Agreed. The Kingdom of Varrock votes yes, but asks our vote to be held until the thread is up. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask.

Queen of the Kingdom of Varrock

Discord: Indie#2017

20-Feb-2017 23:00:59

Dec

2014

Damion Avah

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Sora Verus said :
Astrazak said :
NecroFangz said :
=+= Community Joining =+=
Clan Name:

The Dark Horizon

Members: 8
Leader: (Title TBA) Artemis B
Representative: SolarMagus
Starting Capital: Darkmeyer
QFC: TBA

Loremaster: Artemis B

Thank you for reapplying, Loon Loon.

TSV is going to withhold its vote until you guys post up a thread. We just want to check out your lore, and see what direction you plan to take it in.

Agreed. The Kingdom of Varrock votes yes, but asks our vote to be held until the thread is up. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask.

The Wushanko Empire will also withhold its vote until a thread is available. We more than likely will vote yes but like to see your lore beforehand. Can't wait till then ^^

~~† Emperor of the The Menaphite Empire †~~

~~~Search for the laws of harmony, and you will find knowledge~~~

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20-Feb-2017 23:06:06

Dec

2014

Damion Avah

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Embassy Proposal:

- A clan may have up to 2 embassies with their official allies
-The Build will cost 100k gold and 20 of each resource
- The parent claim will have to approve the build
-Claim is not shared, simply a symbol of alliance is made clear
-The embassy allows access to an ally and makes it official,
such access is negotiated by both clans and must be made
public via lore on the thread
- For lore, it would be recommended to have an ambassador
to that clan for that will represent those embassies
-The parent of the claim or owner of the embassy may
expel or destroy the embassy at a moments notice, please
post lore for the circumstances

*This is open to however you wish. This will give alliances
more tools to work with and allow for more interesting lore,
diplomacy and use of negotiations between clans

**Thank you astrazak for the initial idea of embassies <3

MODIFICATIONS:
-Number of embassies per ally reduced to 2
-If the claim is lost, the embassy is destroyed.

*Hopefully the ambassador wasn't killed

Quick modification as I have seemed to missed a part out:
A claim may only have one embassy placed on its soil.
instant-trading has been removed

Proposal 2: Allied wars with embassy claims
Claim owner may summon 3 allied troops from the clan who owns the embassy.
The attacker knowing about the increased troops, may bring 3 of their own if they able to and must be from the same clan. This is to make it fair. The advantage the embassy has is the guarantee of the additional 3

~~† Emperor of the The Menaphite Empire †~~

~~~Search for the laws of harmony, and you will find knowledge~~~

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21-Feb-2017 03:20:31 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2017 18:51:50 by Damion Avah

Travis Thorn

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In regard to the Embassy Proposal.

I personally am very much against this. It is waaay to OP and in my opinion ruins several mechanics currently in place within the community especially being able to build 2.

This would mean that ships and ports are practically useless. If a clan can insta trade, why bother trading anyone else or risking resources on ships. It also takes away other clans opportunity to attack ships which is a realistic and strategic aspect to trade.

Secondly, the current default for war unless both parties agree is 5v5, no raid armour, no allies. This would mean that larger clans who work at pvp and are already forced to reduce are put at a further disadvantage. Not only would they be forced to allow only 5 members to fight but a smaller clan can fight with their 5 +3 per embassy on that claim (if a clan has 4 allies then it would be 5v17?) That would ruin the conquering aspect in 103.

In the past wars have gotten out of hand. However.. at least it engaged the community. With the clans and leaders currently in place I do not see a need to further dumb down military within the community, there is no need.. This mechanic would ruin the pvp aspect of the community that many within it enjoy. I think the initial idea of establishing embassies is interesting but this is far too OP.

Having discussed it with my leaders, they are in agreement..

KOI votes NO

Sir Travis 2

,

Grand Elder and Leader of the

Kingdom of Isafdar

21-Feb-2017 04:37:56 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2017 05:01:16 by Travis Thorn

Dec

2014

Damion Avah

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There seemed to have been some confusion. In no way can there be more than one embassy on a claim, I should have specified that on the notes. I seemed to have been an oversight on my part. It was in tended but was overlooked. As for trade, it's a benefit of allies but I can see the problem if say a clan decided to be allies with each clan in the community. Also in the past no one's really attempted to take resources from a trade. That piece of the proposal can either be scrapped or changed if any recommendations pop up.
In no way is this intended to be op in pvp though it seemed to be more of a case of an oversight as far as limitations go. I wI'll edit and quickly add that in.
Ad for trade, I honestly can't say unless something else is suggested or recommended to be scrapped

EDIT:the original proposal has been modified to reflect recent concerns

~~† Emperor of the The Menaphite Empire †~~

~~~Search for the laws of harmony, and you will find knowledge~~~

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21-Feb-2017 05:39:41 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2017 05:59:13 by Damion Avah

Muren

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Proposal: Joint Claims

- Multiple clans may establish shared ownership over a single territory.
- These clans must be allied.
- The clans involved in the claim divide the territory's weekly resource/gold income among themselves. (must be mutually agreed-upon)
- Any buildings (excluding ships and caravans) are accessible by all clans involved in the claim.

(Alternatively, distinctions could be made between shared settlements and neighboring settlements, in which case buildings would not be shared between neighboring settlements.)

- All units of income received by a clan from a joint claim must be whole numbers - no fractions.
- Any trades between the clans who own the territory are completed immediately, and cannot be intercepted.
- Lore must support a shared occupation of the territory.

Proposed revision:
~~- Any trades between the clans who own the territory are completed immediately, and cannot be intercepted.~~

- Clans are able to set up raiding parties on a joint claim that will intercept and raid any trades between two owning clans. These parties may be attacked and destroyed after the first interception attempt. ~~~
Bondweaver
of
The Fremennik Tribes
~~~
Be water, my friend.
~~~

21-Feb-2017 13:05:38 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2017 21:18:49 by Muren

Jul

2023

Tenebrae Eon

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My two gold pieces:

Embassy Proposal:
1. Make it 1 Embassy/claim, 2 Embassy/ally.
2. Make it 1 extra troop (the ambassador), and the opposing clan can match.
3. State the Embassy must be on the claim for the benefit.
4. Otherwise, I do like the roleplay aspect.
(I think this will solve all of Travis's complaints?)

Proposal: Joint Claims
I do not like this on principal...
1. To claim land you must be adjacent, does this still hold true in this proposal?
2. "Any trades between the clans who own the territory are completed immediately, and cannot be intercepted." Not unless it is adjacent. I see a trade complete when it reaches the capital.
3. War options? Is it 5 members from either or a mix of both? For the

World

to thrive, the

Darkness

must

Rise

21-Feb-2017 17:33:40 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2017 17:38:03 by Tenebrae Eon

Dec

2014

Damion Avah

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Tenebrae Eon said :
My two gold pieces:

Embassy Proposal:
1. Make it 1 Embassy/claim, 2 Embassy/ally.
2. Make it 1 extra troop (the ambassador), and the opposing clan can match.
3. State the Embassy must be on the claim for the benefit.
4. Otherwise, I do like the roleplay aspect.

1. it is indeed already 1 embassy a claim and 2 embassies total per ally

2. That will ultimately depend what number people want to give it, i settles for mid and went for 3 but lets see what others say
3. Yes, the claim has to be on that claim to have those benefits

~~† Emperor of the The Menaphite Empire †~~

~~~Search for the laws of harmony, and you will find knowledge~~~

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21-Feb-2017 18:50:38

Muren

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Tenebrae Eon said :

Proposal: Joint Claims
I do not like this on principal...
1. To claim land you must be adjacent, does this still hold true in this proposal?
2. "Any trades between the clans who own the territory are completed immediately, and cannot be intercepted." Not unless it is adjacent. I see a trade complete when it reaches the capital.
3. War options? Is it 5 members from either or a mix of both?

Just to answer your questions on the thread:
1. Yes.
2. I agree, it must be adjacent.
3. I had a mix of both in mind. A total of 5, selected from both clans that own the territory under attack. ~~~
Bondweaver
of
The Fremennik Tribes
~~~
Be water, my friend.
~~~

22-Feb-2017 16:24:49

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