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Blasty
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Scret said :
Does reporting work though? I find most people who get reported nothing happens to them and when they are muted they spam quick chat for a few days and back to their horrible selves.

Real punishments will produce real results.


My clan hasn't had people repeatedly disrupting the clan fortunately, so whatever we're doing currently is working for us.

If you can find a way to get people to stop disrupting you, then that'll be what works. Whatever happens to their account after they stop bothering you is up to Jagex.
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05-Jun-2016 00:39:21

Iron Faery
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Preventing is the best you can do and also handling things with necessary strictness and humour. Many loved me because of smile. Being nice and fair is best protection (:

Some people avoid me because I laughed at their stupidity and made the others laugh too, and some others never want to upset me because of love or fear. Or both.

I agree that standards aren't high in game nowadays and certain players can do or say a lot ugly things before getting caught. Many times I felt the same: It's not enough. But I can imagine some reasons why it is like that right now and so I had hard time adapting the lowered standards myself too.

But still I say, doing your own things nicely and preventing the trolls invasion and drama is best you can do.

Recruit carefully
Pick ranks carefully
Avoid trolls and rude people

Count in that even if you personally can laugh at some bad jokes or see through some situations your best supporters and co workers can get hurt, be disappointed, confused, mad at it, see it unfair if certain things keep happening

The leaders standards and wisdom needs to impress the members. Your enemies sense it too, is it good to fight you or it's rather loss? I've found that biggest loss is meet someone great and then prove that you're boring, stupid, annoying. Make bullies feel that they can't win even if they win. They lose your respect and it feels like real loss. You walk in to sunshine and leave them behind like weak shadows.

Be polite but avoid other clans and people who bring bad vibes
Some people just doesn't fit together, you can't blame either side
If you don't know what to do or say, take little time for thinking or remember this situation and figure out how to react next times you see the same or similar. Being prepared helps a lot, being humorous and nice helps even more (:

Really, it's hard to hate someone who is sincerely good person, you'll feel ashamed doing it.

05-Jun-2016 00:52:06

Triscuits
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Yesterday news is today trash, best thing I can tell you is ignore them in public don't run away or hop worlds just don't answer them, they are looking for a fight.. They will get bored and leave you alone keep in mind patience is what you must have in this issue.
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05-Jun-2016 00:54:23

Scret
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Blasty said :
Scret said :
Does reporting work though? I find most people who get reported nothing happens to them and when they are muted they spam quick chat for a few days and back to their horrible selves.

Real punishments will produce real results.


My clan hasn't had people repeatedly disrupting the clan fortunately, so whatever we're doing currently is working for us.

If you can find a way to get people to stop disrupting you, then that'll be what works. Whatever happens to their account after they stop bothering you is up to Jagex.


Not talking about clans, talking in general about the report feature

But its the kind of people who should be getting muted properly that will end up causing disruption, so if behaviour was dealt with properly in this game then it would actually have a positive impact on our clans, makes it easier for us with having to deal with them.
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05-Jun-2016 01:46:11 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 01:49:35 by Scret

Seer of War

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We have been constantly being harassed by ex members for the past 10 months.

I had ignored them for so long. I saw one of them messing with my vex (opening customization interface, planting markers, etc) so I unignored to see if they were saying anything.

This resulted in me seeing that this player was standing there in public calling our clan hackers and scammers. Should I just report and ignore? Probably, but I said "Proof?" because this player has been making things up about our clan for the past year. It then devolved into me being called a pedo, accused of touching her little brother, and even accusing me directly of being a hacker (lol, like what the literal fk?)

As I stated this has been ongoing for approx 10 months now. I've reported them so often with no effect that I got to the point I just put them on ignore. Yet they are still fixated on trying to cause problems for us.

Unacceptable. How many times do I have to report someone for heinous abuses before action is actually taken?
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05-Jun-2016 03:59:35

Salcos

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There is a distinct difference between banter and being hurtful. I shouldn't have to not allow someone who wants to be in our community because their old clan could cause drama.

The lengths at which these people go through is rediculous. The general response is "just ignore and deal with it" and that attitude is EXACTLY what I am trying to fix. It isn't enough because even IF I ignore them, the stuff is still being said, it still deters people from joining our clan. It isnt right.
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05-Jun-2016 04:34:06

Seer of War

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Yeah I agree, reporting and ignoring is not enough. Even with people on your ignore list, they are still alerted when you log in and know what world you are on. If you have a regular routine its very easy for them to stalk you.

In my case, its gone beyond stalking (which shouldn't be tolerated in the first place) to straight up harassment (which definitely should not be tolerated.)

Heinous offenses and repeat offenders should be dealt with severely. Get these toxic players out of the game by strictly enforcing rules. This should be especially important when their behavior interferes with the game experience of others on a regular basis.
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05-Jun-2016 04:44:33

Scret
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Seer of War said :
We have been constantly being harassed by ex members for the past 10 months.

I had ignored them for so long. I saw one of them messing with my vex (opening customization interface, planting markers, etc) so I unignored to see if they were saying anything.

This resulted in me seeing that this player was standing there in public calling our clan hackers and scammers. Should I just report and ignore? Probably, but I said "Proof?" because this player has been making things up about our clan for the past year. It then devolved into me being called a pedo, accused of touching her little brother, and even accusing me directly of being a hacker (lol, like what the literal fk?)

As I stated this has been ongoing for approx 10 months now. I've reported them so often with no effect that I got to the point I just put them on ignore. Yet they are still fixated on trying to cause problems for us.

Unacceptable. How many times do I have to report someone for heinous abuses before action is actually taken?


10 months of him being allowed to say things like this and Jagex still be like "jus repurt it" lol

Completely useless, they spend more time and resources on trying to make the game look good instead of trying to actually make it better, they hire an army of community mods to run events for a minority and show it on camera to their social media sites but instead they could actually hire some more staff to tackle reports properly.
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05-Jun-2016 10:13:12 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 10:18:39 by Scret

Seer of War

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Scret said :
10 months of him being allowed to say things like this and Jagex still be like "jus repurt it" lol

Completely useless, they spend more time and resources on trying to make the game look good instead of trying to actually make it better, they hire an army of community mods to run events for a minority and show it on camera to their social media sites but instead they could actually hire some more staff to tackle reports properly.


We've reported them countless times ingame, I even posted on the "Flag a Concern Thread" last year when a similiar situation happened with these individuals and was told to report ingame. I posted again earlier today on the Flag a Concern Thread, so hopefully these new reports will be acted on.

In point of fact, as I am typing this two players are standing on top of my vex telling people not to join because they will get hacked. Claiming that we have videos on youtube of us hacking people and that we use teamspeak and our offsite to hack people. We don't even have a teamspeak nor do we have an offsite. Lol, its ludacris.

I basically have no option but to take the abuse and blatant unsubstantiated lies and just report ingame at the moment. Other than asking for proof of their allegations, there is little I'm able to do about this situation without inflaming it. Sadly everyone around my vex has no context and might think they are being truthful.

Mod Matthe plz help. :@
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05-Jun-2016 11:36:54 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 11:42:56 by Seer of War

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