RuneScape Forum Archive | Option to mute F2P guests?

Jun

2014

Lisaa

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Sicariu said :
If we can't discuss the actual topic that was proposed in the OP without bringing up extreme comparisons to racism, then what is this argument going to solve? Its just going to be a never ending cycle of both sides lashing back and forth. My only point in that was to bring up a case of reference and to (hopefully) get people to consider the similarities between this proposal and discrimination. My point never was, nor is intended to "Lash out" at people, just to bring up a point for comparing. @Lisaa_RS - Followed by @Runescape
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15-Apr-2016 19:29:36 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 19:33:24 by Lisaa

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2018

Scret

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Lisaa said :
Sicariu said :
Lisaa said :
Sicariu said :

You completely avoided my questions without answering them at all. Sure, I'll answer them:

Is it discriminatory to restrict F2P players from joining a P2P only clan too?

No, because there may be particular reasons why the clan is P2P only, such as being a high-level PvM clan. Why should a free player be barred from chatting & giving advice if they're knowledgable about the subject though?

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Well we gave a reason for wanting a mute so by your own logic its not discrimination.

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15-Apr-2016 19:37:22

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2012

Performs

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Lisaa said :
Performs said :
if I run a members only pvm clan no f2p are going to be accepted to the clan, unless members have alts that go f2p sometimes that would be added to the cc not guests so it would just keep potential trolls out, My answer to you is this, particularly the recolored parts:

Fire Hawk154 said :
...we've never had the need to not let P2P or ex-P2P players guest around, even if they can never become a member of the clan. Why? Because they're just people looking for a talk.

I don't see any reason why membership status would affect whether you can or cannot talk to someone

. You may not be able to talk about a lot of RuneScape, but there's a million more subjects in the world that aren't affected in the slightest by membership status.......

I think it's fundamentally wrong to separate an entire group based on the misbehaviour of a select few

...... Some F2P players are bad, but

why the f*** does anyone in their right mind think it is okay to punish an entire group of people who have nothing to do with it, solely on their status?

so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
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15-Apr-2016 20:15:40

Jun

2014

Lisaa

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Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc Even if they're F2P, they may be a former member who is extremely well-versed in high-level PvM, and could give some of your clanmates advice, even if they themselves are unable to PvM. If they have something useful and constructive to say, why keep them from helping? @Lisaa_RS - Followed by @Runescape
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15-Apr-2016 20:19:13

Jun

2012

Performs

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Lisaa said :
Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc Even if they're F2P, they may be a former member who is extremely well-versed in high-level PvM, and could give some of your clanmates advice, even if they themselves are unable to PvM. If they have something useful and constructive to say, why keep them from helping?

If they were a former member then they would still most likely be added in the clan still as well as why the hell would they be playing f2p and how would they stay well-versed as things change for ex. onslaught, meta nerf etc.
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15-Apr-2016 20:21:09

Fire Hawk154

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Scret said :
Well we gave a reason for wanting a mute so by your own logic its not discrimination.
You gave a reason to mute spammers, you have not given a reason to mute F2P players. I haven't spammed your clan chat, my friends haven't spammed your clan chat, 99.999999999% of the F2P players haven't spammed your clan chat. Wanting to mute us all because of what a few idiots have done is a terrible idea and I hope one day you will realize that as well.

Scret said :
Maybe you should stick with counting to 50.
That's not the kind of behaviour I'd expect from a Clan Leader. Take a break, clear your head and reply when you're calm again.

Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
That is an entirely different topic. This topic was about muting all F2P guests because of a few spamming a clan chat.

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15-Apr-2016 20:32:38

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2018

Scret

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Fire Hawk154 said :
Scret said :
Well we gave a reason for wanting a mute so by your own logic its not discrimination.
You gave a reason to mute spammers, you have not given a reason to mute F2P players. I haven't spammed your clan chat, my friends haven't spammed your clan chat, 99.999999999% of the F2P players haven't spammed your clan chat. Wanting to mute us all because of what a few idiots have done is a terrible idea and I hope one day you will realize that as well.

Scret said :
Maybe you should stick with counting to 50.
That's not the kind of behaviour I'd expect from a Clan Leader. Take a break, clear your head and reply when you're calm again.

Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
That is an entirely different topic. This topic was about muting all F2P guests because of a few spamming a clan chat.

Read previous posts lol. Youre the one having a hissy fit over an optional mute feature. You're acting as if we want you all kicked out the game, get a grip

People make f2p accounts to spam chats, its easier to mute f2p in our clans to avoid this, case closed. you can put down your rune longsword.

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15-Apr-2016 20:50:51 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 20:54:57 by Scret

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2012

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Fire Hawk154 said :

Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
That is an entirely different topic. This topic was about muting all F2P guests because of a few spamming a clan chat.

no the op stated it as one of the reasons that he would like it but the topic was about the option which could be used for different reasons, im just expressing some of those
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15-Apr-2016 21:18:21 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 21:19:12 by Performs

Fire Hawk154

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Scret said :
Read previous posts lol. Youre the one having a hissy fit over an optional mute feature. You're acting as if we want you all kicked out the game, get a grip

People make f2p accounts to spam chats, its easier to mute f2p in our clans to avoid this, case closed. you can put down your rune longsword.
There's something fundamentally wrong with this suggestion and I'm not going to sit by watching the freedom of an entire group of players being limited solely because of the things a couple of individuals do.

Performs said :
Fire Hawk154 said :

Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
That is an entirely different topic. This topic was about muting all F2P guests because of a few spamming a clan chat.

no the op stated it as one of the reasons that he would like it but the topic was about the option which could be used for different reasons, im just expressing some of those

Tribelewits said :
Mainly to help clans who have issues with people, creating a kzillion F2P alts, to come in and troll.

This was stated as the main reason though, which is quite different from "one of the reasons" so I only replied on that. I understand where you're coming from though, but we're all playing RuneScape and separation isn't going to make the community better.

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15-Apr-2016 21:36:08 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 21:42:53 by Fire Hawk154

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Scret

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Fire Hawk154 said :
Scret said :
Read previous posts lol. Youre the one having a hissy fit over an optional mute feature. You're acting as if we want you all kicked out the game, get a grip

People make f2p accounts to spam chats, its easier to mute f2p in our clans to avoid this, case closed. you can put down your rune longsword.
There's something fundamentally wrong with this suggestion and I'm not going to sit by watching the freedom of an entire group of players being limited solely because of the things a couple of individuals do.

Performs said :
Fire Hawk154 said :

Performs said :
so tell me how a f2p player is going to go to vorago with me or my clanmates or rots, or nex, or raids. its not the misbehaviour of a select few its that they cannot do high level pvm and thus have no point being in my cc
That is an entirely different topic. This topic was about muting all F2P guests because of a few spamming a clan chat.

no the op stated it as one of the reasons that he would like it but the topic was about the option which could be used for different reasons, im just expressing some of those

Tribelewits said :
Mainly to help clans who have issues with people, creating a kzillion F2P alts, to come in and troll.

This was stated as the main reason though, which is quite different from "one of the reasons" so I only replied on that. I understand where you're coming from though, but we're all playing RuneScape and separation isn't going to make the community better.

Whats it to you if you cant access anothers clan? What effect does it have on you as a f2p that you cant talk in my clan chat? what freedoms are being violated? lol

Your argument makes no sense what so ever. You may as well complaining that i have my pm set to friends too.

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15-Apr-2016 21:46:10 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 21:49:34 by Scret

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