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Sookie Lala said :
Maybe instead of removing the leader, Jagex could reset the permissions to deputies if it is easy enough for them to do. maybe if the leader is absent for three months or so. I think that's a really good idea; it would remove 50% of the problem, and 100% of the problems we all agree are problems.

Morale and "atmosphere" seems to be what people disagree on, whether not having a leader present makes a noticeable difference.
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12-Apr-2016 18:03:07

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Vera said :
Sookie Lala said :
Maybe instead of removing the leader, Jagex could reset the permissions to deputies if it is easy enough for them to do. maybe if the leader is absent for three months or so. I think that's a really good idea; it would remove 50% of the problem, and 100% of the problems we all agree are problems.

Morale and "atmosphere" seems to be what people disagree on, whether not having a leader present makes a noticeable difference.

Exactly this, it would be a huge help if it could be done.
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13-Apr-2016 10:41:43

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I think rather than inventing new ideas right now, it mainly comes down to Jagex realizing that 6 months is a much more reasonable time-span to expect a clan to survive vs 1 year (was this not their previous time-span?).

If their current mindset is "1 year will suffice" for clan's seeking removal of an inactive owner (who doesn't log in at all for 6+ months) then I fear most leaderless clan's will not endure and simply disband themselves or whither away without a proper chance.

I could be wrong, I could be extremely right. Why test the waters? 6 months without logging in is inexcusable when talking about ownership of a clan IN-GAME.
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14-Apr-2016 11:35:15 - Last edited on 14-Apr-2016 14:05:05 by Body btw

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I'm of the opinion that if a clan doesn't have an active involved leader, has a leader that can't be bothered to log in for 6 months that clan has a problem.

To make a clan go 12 months under no leadership is often a death sentence,

6 m onths is more than long enough, lets be honest even if you are extremely busy, your house blew up, you're out of work, you had an accident and are in hospital, there are ways to log in and check on your clan, 6 months of a leader not doing this seems to me a choice not to be bothered.

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16-Apr-2016 08:21:51

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A change to 6 months would massively increase the number of requests for change we recieve - the reason 12 months was chosen was at least partially for this reason.

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3) The length of time chosen also manages the number of requests we have to hand moderate - the process is lengthy, time consuming and involves direct editing of the Clan DB, not something we do lightly or easily.

At 6 months we would probably have to cease making any removal of inactive Clan Leaders, as was previously the case. Mod MattHe | Former Community Manager, now in Events & occasional Lore Monkey

18-Apr-2016 09:22:32

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Thank you for replying again, Mod Matthe. I can appreciate that Jagex has limitations on resources available to handle these cases.

Perhaps you could filter the criteria more so that less cases are eligible... for example: A clan of 20 members, probably inactive, shouldn't qualify for leader removal in 6 months.. MAYBE a year.

What about,
a clan must have 50 players and 6 months of leadership inactivity to be eligible
, would this not help alleviate the cases you would encounter? I'm hearing the main issue is your available resources to handle this, and not that you don't actually want to.

Would this be a reasonable adjustment of criteria?
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18-Apr-2016 09:41:15 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 07:19:05 by Body btw

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Mod Matthe said :
A change to 6 months would massively increase the number of requests for change we recieve - the reason 12 months was chosen was at least partially for this reason. That's an actual answer. Thank you for your honesty and transparency, and for reiterating for us your stance on this,
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Body btw said :
What about, a clan must have 50 players and 6 months of leadership inactivity to be eligible, would this not help alleviate the cases you would encounter? I'm hearing the main issue is your available resources to handle this, and not that you don't actually want to. Agreed with
Bodyy
. Redefining the purpose of the inactive clan leader thread--how it's meant to help clans that are losing members and where having a jmod relegate clan ownership is the best option by far--would help to define criteria such as the ones that
Bodyy
mentioned, and for the reasons he illustrated.
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22-Apr-2016 06:18:23

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Well - thank you very much for the truth Matthe. The fact that 6 months would result in a massive workload at your end shows just how great a problem inactive leaders can be. and how many groups of people are suffering.

Instead of saying no can't cope so it has to be 12 months, lets look at other solutions. Could we look at an automatic ( computer generated) removal of Clan Leaders that have not signed in for 6 months? It would have to come with the warning - sign in (look after the Clan that you claim to Lead ) or lose it. Six months of not signed in and the leadership will automatically default to the next senior person who has signed in in that month. - No appeals, no giving it back, no manual adjustment needed by Jagex. A look after those in your care, do your duty or be removed without notice or appeal.

22-Apr-2016 07:30:35

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