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Chosen Deity

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Salcos said :
The forum got submitted before I could finish. It should read About To Give Up

Our job as clan leaders in this forum doesn't matter. We suggest, we are shut down. We are told its too complex to manipulate. Clans are denied. Its done. Have they even announced the raids cup winner? Doubt it.

Lets look at the updates that have been given to us.
-Citadel boosters: you can buy these with MTX. That is what we get.
-Cool down

Updates we want
-Bank
-Reworked avatar buffs
-Reworked citadel
-Icon for avatar holder/Avatar beacon on map
-New clan ranks
-Personalized clan ranks
-Boss counter on clan info
-Cap counter on clan info
-Member cap list

and so much more.

I dont know about you guys, but personally I am struggling keeping my clan alive. There is no benefit to clans other than the citadel. Friend chats exist for social interaction. Small clans are failing as well due to neglect. I am done. We already displayed our displeasure on the 2016 and clans thread. Where is the cosmetic cape? Where is the mute option? Where is the updates we actually want?

CLF, is it time to throw in the towel?

I've been there and am there! Use to run a nice clan that was level 7 citadel and such. But time and time again getting hopes up just to be shut down. I don't play this game anymore rather clash of clans, however I still check in to see the updates and this forum place to see if more is done but sadly no. Dwindling activity too, depressing to see. 2016 promises/plans? Who knows what to believe, so many things still not done that we have been waiting years for.

18-Nov-2015 22:56:52

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Shamk

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How to quit Runescape: The Guide.

Step 1: Read the CLF forums, namely ones such as this.

Step 2: Reflect.

Step 3: Quit.

.......Well Jagex, I guess you'd better turn an eye toward us. Things are getting heated.

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21-Nov-2015 00:01:45

Salcos

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Just an update:

Citadel boosters are no longer tradeable. Meaning, you have to obtain them through the overpriced amounts!

Cooldown suggestion/improvement thread was unstickied meaning---no more work to improve that! Tata! Goodbye!

Oh also the dev blog for clan funneling was removed as well because the ninja team abandoned it. WOOOOOOOOOO!

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29-Nov-2015 23:08:49

Kibbles RNC

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Lots of fair points made on this thread thus far, but ultimately, I don't think you should throw in the towel in regard to your clan or CLF; however, you'll have to come to terms with an ever-adapting clan environment. This includes the role of CLF.

My clan has been running since April 2006, and needless to say - it has been around through the entire spectrum of Jagex's involvement with clans - from next to none before the first Clan Chat was made, to the first Clan Chat, to Clan Camp of April 2011, etc. What I've learned in my time leading is that even though Jagex can interfere with our clans and obviously each one of their clan-related updates has an effect on our clans, you can't let this interference (or lack of) ruin you. Clanning was never about or involved Jagex. Clans have always been within the realms of the players. We used to manage ourselves entirely, without even the most basic of tools, like a clan chat, provided to us. We figured it out. Hell, we thrived.

And even now, after having numerous flawed updates thrown our way, we'll still figure it out. It's part of being a clan leader. Adapt or die.

CLF as a community needs to adopt that same mentality that persevering clans adopt - adapt or die. Jmod interaction is nice, but it is not a necessity, it never has been. It's not something to be expected. As Jagex has always done, they'll come in and do what they want - and by all means, we should attempt to make our voices heard, but at end of day - we need to realize that clanning's foundation in this game has nothing to do with Jagex. It never has. CLF has been and should be so much more than just Jmod interaction.

I just think the most dangerous mentality that has been adopted in more recent times is this dependency on Jagex. Or worse, entitlement. Albeit, Jagex should stay out where they aren't going to commit, but nonetheless, on our end as clan leaders, we can't forget the clanning history of this game. We don't need Jagex in clanning.

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30-Nov-2015 07:08:49 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2015 07:10:34 by Kibbles RNC

Salcos

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Kibbles RNC said :
CLF as a community needs to adopt that same mentality that persevering clans adopt - adapt or die. Jmod interaction is nice, but it is not a necessity, it never has been. It's not something to be expected. As Jagex has always done, they'll come in and do what they want - and by all means, we should attempt to make our voices heard, but at end of day - we need to realize that clanning's foundation in this game has nothing to do with Jagex. It never has. CLF has been and should be so much more than just Jmod interaction.

I just think the most dangerous mentality that has been adopted in more recent times is this dependency on Jagex. Or worse, entitlement. Albeit, Jagex should stay out where they aren't going to commit, but nonetheless, on our end as clan leaders, we can't forget the clanning his

By adapting we are giving the signal that we are okay with getting updates that we never asked for, and never being a priority. I do not believe adaptation is the answer.

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30-Nov-2015 21:47:11

Kibbles RNC

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My argument is we don't need to be a priority in their eyes to be successful, and in all honesty, clans were most successful when we weren't a priority. This is the community's arena, not Jagex's.

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11-Dec-2015 05:34:00

Salcos

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Kibbles RNC said :
My argument is we don't need to be a priority in their eyes to be successful, and in all honesty, clans were most successful when we weren't a priority. This is the community's arena, not Jagex's.

However without the updates in order to keep up with the current content we will be stuck in the past. That is the problem. Citadels will not get new updates to much the current content like new skills, skill reworks, xp reworks, the monsters in the citadel battlefield are SOOO outdated itself. The avatar buffs are not worth it unless its the skilling buff

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11-Dec-2015 17:44:40

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Scret

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Kibbles RNC said :
My argument is we don't need to be a priority in their eyes to be successful, and in all honesty, clans were most successful when we weren't a priority. This is the community's arena, not Jagex's.

Its absurd to say we dont need Jagex intervention, we absolutely do, they are the ones that will develop content to help us make the communities better.

We need things to help us run our communities, to evolve or communities & the only reason that clans may have been more popular in the past is because of PVP.

As much as we need them to help develop things for us we need them to stop ruining things for us too. There was a time when PVP had a very active and vibrant sense of clanning as well as dungeoneering.

Dungeoneering, i remember when that was at its peak when it was first released it was a skill that relied on multiplayer gaming (what runescape actually is) but then people moaned and complained so alternatives to training the skill were introduced and it lost some of its edge, there were whole clans and communites centred around one skill alone which i thought was great but now all most people do to train that skill is sinkholes and daily challenges.

We can look at the neglect or updates that have negatively effected mini games and their communities too.

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12-Dec-2015 08:47:30

Fire Hawk154

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Kibbles RNC said :
My argument is we don't need to be a priority in their eyes to be successful, and in all honesty, clans were most successful when we weren't a priority. This is the community's arena, not Jagex's.

You're right that clans themselfs don't have to be a priority to be successful, but the times clans were successful was when RuneScape was a multiplayer game. It has evolved into singleplayer now. Outside of the higher-end bosses, all combat is 1v1. The only time someone speaks during combat is when they're asking you to hop worlds, as players became way overpowered compared to most creatures. Before EoC, my F2P clan used to group up on things like Greater Demons and Cockroach Soldiers as it was an advantage to kill them with multiple players. Now you can kill the Cockroaches in 1 hit and just afk at Greater Demons. Dungeoneering became a complete joke, what's the point in grouping together when the bosses during solotrips are 120 combat levels below the player's own level. Might as well remove the bosses and put a goblin there.

And when we start talking about PvP clans, they were already in a decline before EoC, but EoC was just the final nail in the coffin of F2P warring. My own clan has opened on OSRS 2 months ago and we had more recruits in 1 week than in 1 year on RS3. There's just no interest on RS3. The only thing that could've saved F2P warring was pre-EOC combat which Legacy was supposed to mimic. But it was nowhere near good enough. When the old generation doesn't enjoy RS3 PvP and the new generation isn't attracted to it, it dies out.

Clans can't grow without a game that supports multiplayer activities.

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12-Dec-2015 14:14:38 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2015 14:16:33 by Fire Hawk154

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