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iTwisted Bow

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EMPER0R95 said :
rip oldschool rs integrity 2013-2015

voted no, if it fails ill gladly play oldschool again as soon as ge is introduced
cant believe how many ppl fall for jagex "statistics" tho XD
is if permanent f2p wthout bonds would lose them money lol

We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape.

it would loose them money.
` most people play for the nostalgia, a good portion of us are fine with non member nostalgia, if made f2p without bonds, a lot less people would actually pay membership.
* the main reason why people paying membership for OSRS is the simple fact that they HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY OSRS, there is obviously not any f2p -minus two week trial. any time you offer something free whilst it never has been before, you can expect to loose money.

AND I'm really not sure what you mean when you say "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape." PURCHASING MEMBERSHIP BONDS HAS NO ADVANTAGE IN GAME WHATSOEVER. IT SIMPLY GRANTS THAT PLAY MEMBERSHIP.
Everybody 'round me saying I should relax 'cuz I've been going hard 'till my eyes roll back but,
all I wanna do is forget about my past and smoke a'lil ranarr, really nothing too drastic..

28-Jan-2015 20:12:38

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2013

Heritage

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You forgot the part that it's also legal gold selling, so that clearly gives unfair advantages.

We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape.

28-Jan-2015 20:24:57 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2015 20:25:33 by Heritage

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2012

The TomBomb

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The TomBomb said :
People who are against this are not thinking clearly.

Like jagex said before, 40-45% of the community already RWT, old school players especially buy gold from 3rd party sites. There's no difference between what people do now compared to bonds except at least the money will go to jagex to help the game instead of a random guy in his moms basement hurting the game.

28-Jan-2015 21:37:12

Aug

2013

Heritage

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The TomBomb said :
The TomBomb said :
People who are against this are not thinking clearly.

Like jagex said before, 40-45% of the community already RWT, old school players especially buy gold from 3rd party sites. There's no difference between what people do now compared to bonds except at least the money will go to jagex to help the game instead of a random guy in his moms basement hurting the game.

Yeah and that's not a valid reason to make it legal.

I would take a sea of salt with anything that Jagex says regarding statistics anyway.

We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape.

28-Jan-2015 21:39:32

crazywest500

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heritage, this latest poll has clearly upset you, however ''yes'' vote is now on 15 thousand this poll is passing, just accept it.

bonds are completely irrelevant to this poll, the desire to have f2p back is simply too great, people have been asking for f2p since this old school first came out, i can guarantee you people are voting yes even though they dislike the idea of bonds, f2p is back, you and your sig will have to deal with it.

28-Jan-2015 22:41:27

Aug

2022

St8hunter

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-Slow clap- Well done Jagex. Well done. You sure know how to win over those simple souls. If you really wanted more players you would have introduced f2p right from the start

. Nah, this is way better since we found a way to sneak in micro transactions. I can already tell the next polls about extra stuff will be: Shall we add resizable options to the game? but only if solomons store gets added too. So when do we get a proper oldschool team? Can we get a poll on that

?

28-Jan-2015 23:57:22

Dec

2013

FoggyDreamer

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I earned 100% of my oldschool wealth through old fashioned skilling. I was not aware that Jagex KNOWS that 45-50% of the people I play with have bought gold from other websites. Learning this makes me disappointed because it means that Jagex has knowingly allowed this to continue because it was more important to them to retain paying members rather than insist on integrity. Every time I go through the Stronghold Dungeon those darned gates make us cough up the answers about not breaking rules and yet Jagex keeps statistics of the rule breakers and such. I would much rather see players penalized for breaking the rules, i.e. bought wealth confiscated, mining bots frozen in place ( like some witch from Na*nia got them). That would be hysterical to see cheaters frozen in place for a week with their "caught rwt" in red above their frozen avatar. Anyways, although I wanted f2p, i don't bonds. This is just the beginning of slowly bringing in a host of other things. Remember how we all voted against the GE and now they have slowly brought it back in? It won't be long before they have managed to slowly bring back in a lot of other stuff that the lazy cheating population wants. However, the upside to f2p is that I won't ever have to renew my membership to play the osrs game again because I am not going to pay to play if Jagex allows cheating and botting to continue without penalty. You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation - Plato

29-Jan-2015 00:01:10

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2022

St8hunter

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FoggyDreamer said :
I earned 100% of my oldschool wealth through old fashioned skilling. I was not aware that Jagex KNOWS that 45-50% of the people I play with have bought gold from other websites. Learning this makes me disappointed because it means that Jagex has knowingly allowed this to continue because it was more important to them to retain paying members rather than insist on integrity. Every time I go through the Stronghold Dungeon those darned gates make us cough up the answers about not breaking rules and yet Jagex keeps statistics of the rule breakers and such. I would much rather see players penalized for breaking the rules, i.e. bought wealth confiscated, mining bots frozen in place ( like some witch from Na*nia got them). That would be hysterical to see cheaters frozen in place for a week with their "caught rwt" in red above their frozen avatar. Anyways, although I wanted f2p, i don't bonds. This is just the beginning of slowly bringing in a host of other things. Remember how we all voted against the GE and now they have slowly brought it back in? It won't be long before they have managed to slowly bring back in a lot of other stuff that the lazy cheating population wants. However, the upside to f2p is that I won't ever have to renew my membership to play the osrs game again because I am not going to pay to play if Jagex allows cheating and botting to continue without penalty.

This ^ I spend weeks to get my hunter skillcape and to make some decent cash... I just hate the idea that someone can just throw 20 bucks at their screen and have that same amount within 10 seconds. I'm aware it happens now but not on a large scale, this doesn't mean it should be allowed.

29-Jan-2015 00:04:14 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2015 00:05:20 by St8hunter

Dec

2018

RedoOfHeal3r

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We all know those statistics that they used are, more than likely,

blown out of proportion

and misrepresented.

This does not change the fact that f2p has been what we've needed for a long time.

Membership Bonds are an excellent idea because, as the Jmods pointed out, plenty of people are already buying gold from other websites. Players have also,

since day one

,traded gold back and forth between games.

Plenty of players who used gold sites and swapping clans have been scammed. Membership bonds eliminate the scamming.

I do disagree with the tactics used by Jagex here, though. It is clear that they only wanted to cross a few things off their agenda.

I voted yes because: we need f2p, bonds are useful(even though they have drawbacks), and because I don't want to have to log into that disgrace they call RS3 so I can get membs for in-game gold.

29-Jan-2015 00:10:14

Dec

2013

FoggyDreamer

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Ok, since I have never bought or sold a bond, I didn't understand how they worked. Thanks to this forum, I now realize what a scummy trick it is to provide a way for rich people to acquire gold in game by selling a bond they bought with real world money. Crap!! no wonder everyone seems to be wealthy and has all of this expensive armor while I am still running around in rags. How can a player have any pride in something they simply bought and didn't earn? and what's the fun of playing in a game where according to Jagex 45-50% of the population is doing that? And no wonder Jagex doesn't advertise; what can they say? Come play our game where it is legal to buy gold through our cool bonds and you can acquire status with no effort? I am off to vote no to bonds. Every other week it seems like something else is being added to oldschool that just ruins a person's blood pressure.... You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation - Plato

29-Jan-2015 00:20:19

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