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Eucla

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Your argument applied to another situation (sports, for example):

Wildlands said :
It's not even funny how much players take performance enhancing drugs we will never see it stop so we may as well allow performance enhancing drugs to combat it which would also benefit the ... blah blah

It's a non-argument.

Beyond the graph flaunted in the Dev-blogs, can you (or anyone) please explain to me how OSRS will be harmed if F2P is introduced without bonds?

27-Jan-2015 14:54:09

Sk8erpunk193
Apr Member 2006

Sk8erpunk193

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It's annoying that you, Jagex, won't allow more than a two week trial for f2p access. Stop pretending the study you did was scientific in any way; you need to increase the f2p trial to a longer time, say, three to six months, in order to see how many f2p players then purchase members. Two weeks is not enough time for players to determine if they want to buy members.

If this game is truly ran by the players, then give us the option to launch f2p without the introduction of bonds.

27-Jan-2015 18:12:21 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2015 18:37:38 by Sk8erpunk193

Sk8erpunk193
Apr Member 2006

Sk8erpunk193

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It is just so entirely irritating that you [Jagex] are manipulating and splitting the community for your own profits.

Back in the day, the idea of f2p was to hook players and convince them to purchase p2p for extra content and resources. It was never an immediate relationship however; it took me over a year of f2p to want to buy p2p. Giving two week trials and using that "data" to make future projections is almost embarrassing; maybe you should hire a few scientists whom actually know how to gather proper data. I'm sure they would tell you to increase the amount of time the f2p service was offered to see how that impacted retention.

And why all of the sudden do we have to introduce bonds? We know that you aren't ones to shy away from potential profits at the expense of the game. We know that you only want to introduce bonds to OSRS because they will become more widespread; you claim that 25% use bonds, but in the poll a month ago, you claimed it was 8%; stop altering your data to pass your not-so hidden agenda.

We know that the only way bonds would pass a poll is if it was linked to something the community really wants; in this case, f2p. Stop using manipulation to profit, or at least make your data public, where it can be scrutinized by the community. If you keep manipulating how we want the game played, it's going to be a repeat of rs3. I just hope you have another copy of 2007 runescape saved, so when this game tanks, you can re-launch.

27-Jan-2015 18:34:22 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2015 19:57:53 by Sk8erpunk193

n u g

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even if f2p was released with or without bonds where all all these new players coming from?

f2p just isnt gonna be released and suddenly there a mass influx of players, there isnt even any advertising.

i watched the stream, the whole time up untill someone asked EXACTLY how bonds worked, he left out the part that you need to buy them with IRL cash.

when he did explain you need to buy them with irl cash he acted very nervous and dodgy tbh.

jagex knows bonds wouldnt pass without tying it with f2p.

its crazy how many people are falling for this.

reminder that GE and micro-transactions are being put in game before resizable mode.

27-Jan-2015 19:29:07

n u g

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also the whole 'argument' that people are already real world trading so its ok if jagex introduces bonds(real world trading) is ********.
i honestly cant tell if people who use this argument really believe that, or if theyre just trolling.

'well people are already smoking crack. lets make crack legal since people are already doing it anyway!'

27-Jan-2015 19:34:47

Great Dragon

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figures you wont give us something for free... bribing us with "f2p" but only with bonds.... typical. wont be fooled. not a kid anymore. taxes for the church, taxes for the mayor taxes for the sherrif, taxes for the king... its a wonder there is anything left to eat,
does it look like i've struck gold here?

28-Jan-2015 01:47:29

Great Dragon

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jagex knows bonds wouldnt pass without tying it with f2p.

its crazy how many people are falling for this.

reminder that GE and micro-transactions are being put in game before resizable mode. taxes for the church, taxes for the mayor taxes for the sherrif, taxes for the king... its a wonder there is anything left to eat,
does it look like i've struck gold here?

28-Jan-2015 01:48:11

Plonster
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I don't condone to make rwt legal with my previous comments but if I had a choice for jagex to make service out of it instead of illegal trading then I would prefer that. And the idea that jagex could do the same with botting is not the same. Bots use the rwt sides but once jagex implements bonds it will cut their profit and soon kill bots. The problem you guys have is with this actually working and people abusing the system and buying gp.

I already know where your worries lie and I can understand because I don't like the idea of people just buying cash for a game. But its the year 2015 now and unfortunately many players like myself have evolved in the way of thinking too. But as long as the main core elements of osrs are never changed there should never be a problem. The main core element of osrs that is missing is "free" playing of osrs. F2p is not currently active imo and the trial thing sucks. We should just abandon the worlds for the time being because noone enjoys it with no hustle and bustle. Clan Defy -
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28-Jan-2015 01:56:13 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2015 01:56:28 by Plonster

Feather Bug
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Feather Bug

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Voting NO. I am absolutely opposed to condoning, encouraging (or making legal) RWT. Swapping between RS3 and OSRS should never be allowed. This feels like a sell out :( BONDS and the ability to buy in game wealth essentially destroys the whole foundation of the game and purpose of any achievement. The whole thing feels like a bad joke. Please leave oldschool alone. No BONDS. I'm all for F2P but not at the expense of the game. So sad....

28-Jan-2015 03:54:04

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