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Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Phlegmy said :

I thoroughly agree with you, and am glad you came to post here. What's the point of voting in a system that doesn't matter? "Power to the players" is just a marketing ploy and not the justice system that it should be. If this update was brought upon by a poll, i honestly wouldn't waste my time here.

After all this, at least poll to revert back the original changes. If 75% vote for that than we at least have a more fair basis to go off of.

I'm happy to see someone agrees. I wouldn't be as disappointed with the decision if they never polled anything like rs was for a long time or if 75% of people voted they don't want splashing in, but obviously that didn't happen.

I don't think "power to the players" is really a marketing ploy, these devs truly care about the state of the game. That being said; splashing wasn't against any game rules, it's been in the game forever as has been stated so many times before, yet with no poll and no serious risk to the game (unlike the rwt stakers on that poll) it's been basically removed.

28-Nov-2014 02:53:23 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 02:55:54 by Jjozzie

Jun

2006

Stinkowing

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Memento M0RI said :
Stinkowing said :
I know I said I'd be gone from this thread, but...wow.

I go to Varrock Sewers to train my Slayer on my skeleton assignment (I'm a lower level in OSRS), and some dude, the very second I start attacking and killing a skeleton with Crumble Undead, the very INSTANT...asks "y arent you splashing?"

The audacity of it...to ask me to partake in methods that were widely deemed by legit players as unfair! No way. Not to mention it's a Slayer task? Uhh, I want to kill monsters, not let them bash my skull in while I pointlessly fire puny Wind Strikes their way.

I told them off and worldhopped. I'm not partaking in a stupid activity that isn't meant to be there. If you want to splash, fine, but I will have no part of it. If you don't like the changes implemented today, there's the door over there to other MMOs. We legit players don't want your kind here.
/ends thread rant there and leaves again

You ranted toward someone who asked you a simple question, then PMSED over it & then had to come whine on the forums lol. Nice neckbeard. Don't forget to tip your fedora on the way out & feed your cats. Not all of us care about splashing. It's the fact they chose the minority & ruined 93 slayer. Keep thinking butt kissing is gonna get you mod ship when nobody cares about you.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAAH!

This post...omg my sides...that's the dumbest flame bait I've ever seen...oh wow, tell me another one!

But seriously, I don't want "mod ship". I only care about the health of the game. Do explain, via your completely flawed logic, how I am a neckbeard?

Grow up. Randomly insulting me will only show that you're probably one of the splash trainers. In that case, if that's true, you disgust me, in part to the fact that you don't know how to play RS the way it was meant to be played. Good day!

Nice name btw, you really are a tragedy. Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

28-Nov-2014 03:08:15 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 03:11:37 by Stinkowing

Nikolas10181

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Jjozzie said :
Phlegmy said :

I thoroughly agree with you, and am glad you came to post here. What's the point of voting in a system that doesn't matter? "Power to the players" is just a marketing ploy and not the justice system that it should be. If this update was brought upon by a poll, i honestly wouldn't waste my time here.

After all this, at least poll to revert back the original changes. If 75% vote for that than we at least have a more fair basis to go off of.

I'm happy to see someone agrees. I wouldn't be as disappointed with the decision if they never polled anything like rs was for a long time or if 75% of people voted they don't want splashing in, but obviously that didn't happen.

I don't think "power to the players" is really a marketing ploy, these devs truly care about the state of the game. That being said; splashing wasn't against any game rules, it's been in the game forever as has been stated so many times before, yet with no poll and no serious risk to the game (unlike the rwt stakers on that poll) it's been basically removed.

AFKing was against the rules in 07 and back then you would be treated the same as a botter would. Your lack of knowledge of business is astounding when you say splashing didn't affect nat prices let me break down nat history on 07.

Nats were 300gp and steady there was huge demand for them and everything was going well. Then NMZ comes in and turns out to have completely broken exp rates especially for mage and people were abusing the hell out of it and nats weren't needed in business terms there was serious lack of demand and they dropped to 250 each and a 50gp drop in items that are bought in bulk is a huge loss and a serious hit to the rcing skill. Time goes on and the damage had been done nats were starting to stabilize at around 235-240 and then splashing comes around once again removing demand for nature runes and they started to drop Bring memes to OSRS general forum

28-Nov-2014 03:13:03

Nikolas10181

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again to 215 and looked to be getting worse.

In conclusion why should we destroy the main source of training and income of rcing for slayer which has tons of content, money making methods which are more than large enough and also is going to get even more content and more drops in the future?

Runecrafting is considered the hardest skill in Runescape so why should we pretty much kill it just so slayer can have another drop when it already has plenty? Bring memes to OSRS general forum

28-Nov-2014 03:16:39

LunaStar416

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I've seen a good amount of people moaning and groaning about the splash fix. The fact is it was stated that for a poll vote to be followed or put into play it needed to reach 75%. Well not enough people had the same opinion to get the vote that high on any choice. So as we voted that it takes 75% for a poll to pass and we obviously couldn't do that Jagex took it upon themselves to do what they thought was best. Some of us like it some of us don't. I'm willing tho bet the ones that have their ******* in a bunch are the ones that were doing the splashing in the first place. But here is the real question... what is the point of playing a game if you're not gonna actually play it. "Oh look Runescape this looks fun but wait I'm too lazy to play it I think I'll just "bot" or "afk" through it so I don't actually have to play this game I want to play" The point of the game is too play and have fun. How are you having fun playing the game if you're not there playing it? That's my 2 cents as I am entitled and I'm sure the anti Luna will follow as you are entitled.

28-Nov-2014 03:19:08

Jun

2006

Stinkowing

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LunaStar416 said :
I've seen a good amount of people moaning and groaning about the splash fix. The fact is it was stated that for a poll vote to be followed or put into play it needed to reach 75%. Well not enough people had the same opinion to get the vote that high on any choice. So as we voted that it takes 75% for a poll to pass and we obviously couldn't do that Jagex took it upon themselves to do what they thought was best. Some of us like it some of us don't. I'm willing tho bet the ones that have their ******* in a bunch are the ones that were doing the splashing in the first place. But here is the real question... what is the point of playing a game if you're not gonna actually play it. "Oh look Runescape this looks fun but wait I'm too lazy to play it I think I'll just "bot" or "afk" through it so I don't actually have to play this game I want to play" The point of the game is too play and have fun. How are you having fun playing the game if you're not there playing it? That's my 2 cents as I am entitled and I'm sure the anti Luna will follow as you are entitled.

I couldn't have said it better. Jagex only wants the best for OSR (can't say the same about EoC, though); if they did nothing about splashing and commission staking, that would make the OSR dev team just as bad as EoCs in ignoring player demands.

The amount of people who are whining and clearly don't know how to read or know how to enjoy RuneScape is astounding.

And for those of you who are just going to flamebait me for my opinion, the door's over there. I've played RS as a whole since 2005, and AFK training was a bannable offence back then because you were not actually playing the game. You should NOT be seeing splashing as legit because you're not at the keyboard playing RuneScape; how it got in anyone's mind that it was "OK because everyone else is doing it" is beyond me... Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

28-Nov-2014 03:21:30 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 03:23:54 by Stinkowing

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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AFKing was against the rules in 07 and back then you would be treated the same as a botter would. Your lack of knowledge of business is astounding when you say splashing didn't affect nat prices let me break down nat history on 07.

Nats were 300gp and steady there was huge demand for them and everything was going well. Then NMZ comes in and turns out to have completely broken exp rates especially for mage and people were abusing the hell out of it and nats weren't needed in business terms there was serious lack of demand and they dropped to 250 each and a 50gp drop in items that are bought in bulk is a huge loss and a serious hit to the rcing skill. Time goes on and the damage had been done nats were starting to stabilize at around 235-240 and then splashing comes around

Goodie, I was waiting for a response like this.

So what changed the nature prices in the other version? They were 210 ea for the longest time and very few people splashed there, and there was no NMZ.

Almost all items decrease in price over time. The fact you're using 300gp natures as an example is redundant, as they were only like this at the very start of the game.

"a serious hit to the RC skill", wrong again. Nats have gotten cheaper but so has pure essence. In fact let's use an example of just over a year ago. Nats were 220ish each and pure essence 80-100 each and look at yesterday, nats were 210-220 each and pure essence is 25 each. Did anyone complain about rcing nat profit then? No.

There's been almost no diffence in the profit of rcing nats so this argument that splashing is going to suddenly make rc a lot more profitable is crazy. Of course nat prices will probably increase 20ish gp or so, but from some of the responses on this thread you're making it sound like rcing nats (esp at 91) wasn't very profitable. With ess being now 25 gp, it's very profitable still, even with splashing.

Plus no-one ever got banned for "afking" in 2007.

28-Nov-2014 03:34:12

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Nikolas10181 said :
again to 215 and looked to be getting worse.

In conclusion why should we destroy the main source of training and income of rcing for slayer which has tons of content, money making methods which are more than large enough and also is going to get even more content and more drops in the future?

Runecrafting is considered the hardest skill in Runescape so why should we pretty much kill it just so slayer can have another drop when it already has plenty?

To your main point in this post, you're saying why should we "destroy" the main source of income from rcing? Check my previous post and the numbers there, it's FAR from being destroyed. Then I could make exactly the same point, why "destroy" the most profitable drop from the highest level slayer monster? You want rewarding for doing a slow skill? So do i.

It doesn't matter if slayer is going to get expanded or not, RCing is a different kind of money maker to slayer. RCing you know what you're going to get all the time, you know how much you have to spend to get x in return, with slayer you don't have the same guarantee. I bet you 99 RC makes a hell of a lot more profit then 99 Slayer, even with natures being 215 each.

Edit: Also never bring up "lack of knowledge" in something when that person knows a lot more about the subject then you, or at least do your research before you post. And use some grammar in future, 4-5 lines without a comma or full stop is painful to read, that's your "lack of knowledge".

28-Nov-2014 03:37:56 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 03:44:15 by Jjozzie

Nikolas10181

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Jjozzie said :
Nikolas10181 said :
again to 215 and looked to be getting worse.

In conclusion why should we destroy the main source of training and income of rcing for slayer which has tons of content, money making methods which are more than large enough and also is going to get even more content and more drops in the future?

Runecrafting is considered the hardest skill in Runescape so why should we pretty much kill it just so slayer can have another drop when it already has plenty?

To your main point in this post, you're saying why should we "destroy" the main source of income from rcing? Check my previous post and the numbers there, it's FAR from being destroyed. Then I could make exactly the same point, why "destroy" the most profitable drop from the highest level slayer monster? You want rewarding for doing a slow skill? So do i.

It doesn't matter if slayer is going to get expanded or not, RCing is a different kind of money maker to slayer. RCing you know what you're going to get all the time, you know how much you have to spend to get x in return, with slayer you don't have the same guarantee. I bet you 99 RC makes a hell of a lot more profit then 99 Slayer, even with natures being 215 each.

Edit: Also never bring up "lack of knowledge" in something when that person knows a lot more about the subject then you, or at least do your research before you post. And use some grammar in future, 4-5 lines without a comma or full stop is painful to read, that's your "lack of knowledge".

I wasn't aware that the RS forums were a place for grammar ***** (we got a character limit I need all the space I can get) but seriously you make more money with slayer and slayer is nowhere near as painful or annoying to do as runecrafting is so saying slayer is a slow skill compared to runecrafting is a laughable comparison. As for Eoc try 14 years and there was way more people back in the day. Bring memes to OSRS general forum

28-Nov-2014 04:18:08

Nikolas10181

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I also got to say essence have not been 80gp to 100gp each since NMZ came out in fact I don't recall it ever being this price. I am still waiting for Jagex to fix NMZ as well as it is only a matter of time. The amount of time you put in for Runecrafting makes it not worth cash even before NMZ came and took an axe to nats people were still debating whether or not they wanted to do it. Slayer also trains combat at the same time which has many uses while Runecrafting is just Runecrafting so that it makes it even worse to do. Bring memes to OSRS general forum

28-Nov-2014 04:25:10

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