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Jun

2011

Rob Zombie

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Phlegmy said :

With a rise in nature rune prices, and other ways to train magic this is not a given. Alching is comparably low experience per hour and if you have to pay more for nature runes this method becomes inefficient to use. I personally would never dream of alching for days getting minimal experience per hour.

Nor would I. But obviously high alch is a popular training method. Comped on Rs3 Dec 2012 |

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28-Nov-2014 01:41:45 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 01:50:16 by Rob Zombie

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Rob Zombie said :
@jjozzie, Says Half the rs players, and apparently jagex, Since they're going to prevent afking for 6 hours.

Duh? Anyone that kills Smoke devil boss is going to be disappointed with this. What do you do to make gp, out of curiosity?

Same with rcers and nature runes. Afk splashing shouldnt stay just to make smoke devils more profitable.

You mustn't of read anything I've posted so far. What if natures went to 105 each suddently, how would you feel about that?

Obviously it wasn't half the players in Rs, take another look at the poll results. If it were 75% of the players then fair enough, but it wasn't, nor will it ever be, that's why they daren't poll it.

I should just copy and paste what I've already typed out, but hopefully you read this one;

"Splashing" has always been in the game, that's why it should stay. It didn't even get 50% on a poll survey, let alone 75% support to actually remove it.

Edit: This is just another perfect example of the minority being louder then the majority, so the minority get noticed.

28-Nov-2014 01:42:02 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 01:46:42 by Jjozzie

Jun

2011

Rob Zombie

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Jjozzie said :
Rob Zombie said :
@jjozzie, Says Half the rs players, and apparently jagex, Since they're going to prevent afking for 6 hours.

Duh? Anyone that kills Smoke devil boss is going to be disappointed with this. What do you do to make gp, out of curiosity?

Same with rcers and nature runes. Afk splashing shouldnt stay just to make smoke devils more profitable.

You mustn't of read anything I've posted so far. What if natures went to 105 each suddently, How would you feel about that?

Obviously it wasn't half the players in Rs, take another look at the poll results. If it were 75% of the players then fair enough, but it wasn't, nor will it ever be, that's why they daren't poll it.

I should just copy and paste what I've already typed out, but hopefully you read this one;

"Splashing" has always been in the game, that's why it should stay. It didn't even get 50% on a poll survey, let alone 75% support to actually remove it.

Edit: This is just another perfect example of the minority being louder then the majority, so the minority get noticed.

Well first of all it was a survey and not a poll. They analized the data and looked at how certain types of players voted. They are doing whats best for the game in the long run. Why exactly do you support 6 hour afk splashing? Comped on Rs3 Dec 2012 |

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28-Nov-2014 01:49:19 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 01:51:25 by Rob Zombie

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Rob Zombie said :
Jjozzie said :
Rob Zombie said :
@jjozzie, Says Half the rs players, and apparently jagex, Since they're going to prevent afking for 6 hours.

Duh? Anyone that kills Smoke devil boss is going to be disappointed with this. What do you do to make gp, out of curiosity?

Same with rcers and nature runes. Afk splashing shouldnt stay just to make smoke devils more profitable.

You mustn't of read anything I've posted so far. What if natures went to 105 each suddently, How would you feel about that?

Obviously it wasn't half the players in Rs, take another look at the poll results. If it were 75% of the players then fair enough, but it wasn't, nor will it ever be, that's why they daren't poll it.

I should just copy and paste what I've already typed out, but hopefully you read this one;

"Splashing" has always been in the game, that's why it should stay. It didn't even get 50% on a poll survey, let alone 75% support to actually remove it.

Edit: This is just another perfect example of the minority being louder then the majority, so the minority get noticed.

Well first of all it was a survey and not a poll. They analized the data and looked at how certain types of players voted. They are doing whats best for the game in the long run.

Oh a survey, my apologies. When someone points out something as petty as that it's usually because they have nothing else, that seems to be the case here. The second two sentences hold no proof also. Have you got a link for the proof of "They analized the data and looked at how certain types of players voted"? The last part is purely your opinion, I could say the opposite and we'd get no-where.

28-Nov-2014 01:53:07

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2023

co1ns

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Oh a survey, my apologies. When someone points out something as petty as that it's usually because they have nothing else, that seems to be the case here. The second two sentences hold no proof also. Have you got a link for the proof of "They analized the data and looked at how certain types of players voted"? The last part is purely your opinion, I could say the opposite and we'd get no-where.[/quote]

They did an analysis on lot of things and made decision based on how it was effecting game , it's on latest stream as of today you can watch them on official runescape twitch stream forget where they talked slightly about how they made decision.

what you need to remember is that the decision was up to them not us it was effecting game as result their is no need for poll they clearly wanted see how the community was viewing issue then did the analysis on data they had and made decision they did weather you agree with it or not it's still 50% in support of it and 50% against and they took the less marginal side that was 46% no against 54% yes end off really they were ones making decision from start to fix an unintended flaw when they removed randoms.

28-Nov-2014 02:00:05

Jun

2011

Rob Zombie

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i am searching for it, but there was a graph released a few days ago or so that shown how players with certain levels voted in the survey, and a bunch of other statistics.

Edit: here it is Integrity survey

Edit: There are more statistics on Page 4. Comped on Rs3 Dec 2012 |

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28-Nov-2014 02:00:22 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 02:11:41 by Rob Zombie

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Rob Zombie said :
i am searching for it, but there was a graph released a few days ago or so that shown how players with certain levels voted in the survey, and a bunch of other statistics.

Ok, thanks.

So the three with the least percentage to leave it were "99 magic", "total maxed combat" and "maxed melee"..? That's always going to be the case. The majority of "maxed melee" accounts are 90+ magic and obviously total maxed combat are 99 magic, so they're not going to care if splashing gets removed because they've already done it enough for 94/99 magic or have used another method and don't care if it's removed.

From page 4 of that thread;

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Less than 50M XP

Splashing LEAVE - 50.40%
Splashing POLL - 15.48%
Splashing ACT - 34.12%

More than 200M XP

Splashing LEAVE - 19.17%
Splashing POLL - 6.74%
Splashing ACT - 74.09%

Looks like they're taking the side of people with 200m+ exp pretty heavily, even though it was 1.43% of the votes, as opposed to less then 50m being 76.45%.

28-Nov-2014 02:03:19 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 02:19:49 by Jjozzie

Jun

2011

Rob Zombie

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Whatever the outcome is, we'll all just have to roll with it. They've got the data. Im sure jagex knows how to handle this situation and make the best decision. But right now the dicision is to make a 30 min inactivity timer (or so i've heard) and you'll stop retaliating. They're seeing how the community reacts before making a further dicision. Comped on Rs3 Dec 2012 |

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28-Nov-2014 02:17:13 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2014 02:19:23 by Rob Zombie

Jun

2005

Jjozzie

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Rob Zombie said :
Whatever the outcome is, we'll all just have to roll with it. They've got the data. Im sure jagex knows how to handle this situation and make the best decision. But right now the dicision is to make a 30 min inactivity timer (or so i've heard) and you'll stop retaliating. They're seeing how the community reacts before making a further dicision.

Just liked I posted before, this type of thinking lead to what the other rs is like now. Obviously being able to learn from the other Rs anything that drastic won't happen again, but I still MUCH prefer the players being able to control with polls everything that does or doesn't get in/taken out/changed in the game (unless it's botting/rwt things of course).

Now that they've made a decision without polling it, what's to stop that to being a trend?

28-Nov-2014 02:23:34

Phlegmy

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Jjozzie said :
Rob Zombie said :
Whatever the outcome is, we'll all just have to roll with it. They've got the data. Im sure jagex knows how to handle this situation and make the best decision. But right now the dicision is to make a 30 min inactivity timer (or so i've heard) and you'll stop retaliating. They're seeing how the community reacts before making a further dicision.

Just liked I posted before, this type of thinking lead to what the other rs is like now. Obviously being able to learn from the other Rs anything that drastic won't happen again, but I still MUCH prefer the players being able to control with polls everything that does or doesn't get in/taken out/changed in the game (unless it's botting/rwt things of course).

Now that they've made a decision without polling it, what's to stop that to being a trend?

I thoroughly agree with you, and am glad you came to post here. What's the point of voting in a system that doesn't matter? "Power to the players" is just a marketing ploy and not the justice system that it should be. If this update was brought upon by a poll, i honestly wouldn't waste my time here.

After all this, at least poll to revert back the original changes. If 75% vote for that than we at least have a more fair basis to go off of.

28-Nov-2014 02:33:11

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