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UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
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The products don't sell will never even be marketed or offered any bonuses. That's probably why the Runepass experiment hasn't returned.

Biggest joke ever, that's why Fallout76 went on sale a week after launch because it did so well right? In fact, it sold so well that some outlets were giving it away for free by bundling it PS4 controllers.


What did Jagex added Premier Club, retail card promotions, Twitch Prime, 3 for 2 summer membership deals etc to sell RS membership? What did Jagex add Portable Vic to sell Bonds? Why did Jagex run SGS sales every week and keep pushing for deeply discounted Aura sales?

Are membership, bond and SGS all selling poorly? Biggest joke ever. :D :D :D

That's not what I'm saying at all. I said your statement that "things that don't sell well will never go on sale" is wrong, now you're saying that I said "things that go on sale aren't selling well".

Nice strawman.


"The products don't sell will never even be marketed or offered any bonuses. That's probably why the Runepass experiment hasn't returned."


That's what I wrote on Page 91, Post 8. Not you tried to twisted it to.

The fact that Jagex keeps sweetening their offers for not just TH keys, but also membership, bond, SGS while they keep breaking revenue and profits records year after year clearly shows Blackwing is absolutely wrong. They keep sweetening all the offers to all kinds of things that SELL. The ones done sell they just don't run them again.

I know what I quoted, there are 2 statements in your original quote, I'm saying one of them is wrong (the one you quoted in green). You're talking about the other part, where blackwing's statement is wrong.
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13-May-2019 16:40:14

Dilbert2001
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I showed you my exact post already. You obviously misquoted it whether it is the first or 2nd statements.

Fallout 76 also did not make any sales for their content. In fact, they ramped up more MTX sales. What they cut was only the price of the boxes which is not uncommon near Christmas time.

And for the record, Fallout 76 did not sell poorly at all:

"The NPD Group's report for US game sales in November show that Fallout 76 was the fourth best-selling game of November, only behind Battlefield V, Call of Duty: Black Ops 4, and Red Dead Redemption 2. ... Fallout 76 will be supported with new updates for a long time to come, according to Bethesda.Dec 19, 2018"


What they did "poorly" was in-game purchase because it was originally cosmetics only but then they added stats to some cosmetics, hence breaking their promises of no pay-to-win in the game. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

13-May-2019 17:49:16

UrekMazino
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And I've explained to you what I'm trying to respond to in your post. Like I said, your post can be separated into 2 parts. 1st one being your response to Blackwing's statement, about key sales not doing well. 2nd part is your statement
"The products don't sell will never even be marketed or offered any bonuses."
which is the one I'm addressing.

You keep referring to the first part and I keep telling you that I'm only talking about the second part. Do you want to defend your statement or keep talking about something else?
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14-May-2019 16:25:25

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
And I've explained to you what I'm trying to respond to in your post. Like I said, your post can be separated into 2 parts. 1st one being your response to Blackwing's statement, about key sales not doing well. 2nd part is your statement
"The products don't sell will never even be marketed or offered any bonuses."
which is the one I'm addressing.

You keep referring to the first part and I keep telling you that I'm only talking about the second part. Do you want to defend your statement or keep talking about something else?


I have nothing more to tell you other than I have clearly showed you the answer to you asked for.

Sorry, I have no intention to go in circle with you. Thank you for your comment. I am asking Jmods for advise. Have a nice day. :)

14-May-2019 18:35:17

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
And I've explained to you what I'm trying to respond to in your post. Like I said, your post can be separated into 2 parts. 1st one being your response to Blackwing's statement, about key sales not doing well. 2nd part is your statement
"The products don't sell will never even be marketed or offered any bonuses."
which is the one I'm addressing.

You keep referring to the first part and I keep telling you that I'm only talking about the second part. Do you want to defend your statement or keep talking about something else?


I have nothing more to tell you other than I have clearly showed you the answer to you asked for.

Sorry, I have no intention to go in circle with you. Thank you for your comment. I am asking Jmods for advise. Have a nice day. :)

Yea, because you know your statement was wrong and can't defend it. Thanks for the post counts while this bickering lasted, not that I care about pc anyways.
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15-May-2019 03:23:16

Dilbert2001
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ELITE STACK said :
Runepass actually did sell pretty well. Saw alot of water lycans last year. However portable vic is dead content and if they bring portable vic back, It doesen't mean it sold well. Only seen 3 portables vics and that was the first day of the update.


I saw many portable Vic actually but since they are not shareable and only last for 1 hour, I did not see them in the regular crowd gathering places.

I know many people bought Runepass but as you mentioned, the Water Lycan, was the main reason they bought it. I don't know if Jagex is going to bring back Runepass but don't forget if players buy Runepass just to get the dirt cheap legendary pet which normally costs a lot more than the Runepass itself, Jagex will actually be losing net profits from SGS by selling Runepass.

That said, I don't think a free or deep discount legendary pet will be in the 2nd Runepass experiment, if it ever comes again. The Lycan was just a introduction offer for Runepass. Likewise, the triple key offer is just an introduction offer for only 15 keys. You probably won't get triple keys for a 75 key bundle.

15-May-2019 05:15:03

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Treasure Hunter key sales haven't been doing so well yet again it seems, since Jagex has had to resort to doubled daily keys again to get vulnerable people hooked into predatory gambling; by getting them used to double daily keys, after it reverts to normal, they'll feel awful for getting a smaller daily "fix" again than during the doubled daily keys period. It's just further proof that Treasure Hunter needs to be removed, especially if the company claims to care about mental health :P
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20-May-2019 14:16:24

Dilbert2001
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Sharp-shin said :
Treasure Hunter key sales haven't been doing so well yet again it seems, since Jagex has had to resort to doubled daily keys again to get vulnerable people hooked into predatory gambling; by getting them used to double daily keys, after it reverts to normal, they'll feel awful for getting a smaller daily "fix" again than during the doubled daily keys period. It's just further proof that Treasure Hunter needs to be removed, especially if the company claims to care about mental health :P


What? When Jagex offered triple keys, TH was dying because they offered more. Now Jagex only offer double keys and TH was dying because they offer less? "Interesting" logic :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Meanwhile, TH is only getting more updates in graphics, content and events. That's tell you Jagex's plan already. :)

20-May-2019 15:01:01

ELITE STACK
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Dilbert2001 said :
ELITE STACK said :
Runepass actually did sell pretty well. Saw alot of water lycans last year. However portable vic is dead content and if they bring portable vic back, It doesen't mean it sold well. Only seen 3 portables vics and that was the first day of the update.


I saw many portable Vic actually but since they are not shareable and only last for 1 hour, I did not see them in the regular crowd gathering places.

I know many people bought Runepass but as you mentioned, the Water Lycan, was the main reason they bought it. I don't know if Jagex is going to bring back Runepass but don't forget if players buy Runepass just to get the dirt cheap legendary pet which normally costs a lot more than the Runepass itself, Jagex will actually be losing net profits from SGS by selling Runepass.

That said, I don't think a free or deep discount legendary pet will be in the 2nd Runepass experiment, if it ever comes again. The Lycan was just a introduction offer for Runepass. Likewise, the triple key offer is just an introduction offer for only 15 keys. You probably won't get triple keys for a 75 key bundle.



The price is irrelevant. If it sold well it sold well, alot more then portable vic. Legendary pets have already had discounted price sales anyway. If ur worried about net profit so much, Well 5 years ago treasure hunter promotions had lower xp rates then they do now. With treasure hunter having higher xp rates now, Players don't have to buy as many keys to get where they need their levels at. Same thing with bonds, several years ago when bonds were only 6m, You had to buy more bonds to get the gp you wanted. If you want 1b gp now you only need 50 bonds since bonds are 20m. Years ago if you wanted 1b gp, you had to buy 167 bonds if you wanted 1b gp.


Now ur suddenly talking about net profit over well selling products. This is why I said before you can sell 500m xp lamps on th and many
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20-May-2019 15:14:11

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