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Dilbert2001
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ELITE STACK said :
Players would buy into that. Does that mean that should happen?


Don't yo see Jagex just extended Portable Vic but they did not extend Runepass?

This is how marketing works. If they did not see Portable Vic was viable they would not sweeten the offer (e.g. put more elite skilling outfits in it), they would have just let the current offer expire naturally like what they did with Runepass.

They sweeten the deal to entice more potential consumers with promising products, but put the not quite promising ones in the back burner. Pretty much it is similar strategy across different companies in different industries.

20-May-2019 17:14:42

ELITE STACK
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You also said the legendary pet was too cheap so it was too good of a deal. Jagex can add 100m xp lamps to vic or th and get ppl into buying into it. But if they did add 100m xp lamps, they would lose net profit. Lets add 50m xp lamps to vic to get everyone into buying portable vic, it would definitely be popular. My point still stands though, runepass was more successful then portable vic. They make like an extra $200 by adding the wc outfit. It's still dead content.


Why do you think the game with less players is getting more mxt then the game with more players? Wouldn't all these products be in osrs if these products were so popular? oops! :D :D :D
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20-May-2019 17:52:57 - Last edited on 20-May-2019 17:54:32 by ELITE STACK

Dilbert2001
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ELITE STACK said :
You also said the legendary pet was too cheap so it was too good of a deal. Jagex can add 100m xp lamps to vic or th and get ppl into buying into it. But if they did add 100m xp lamps, they would lose net profit. Lets add 50m xp lamps to vic to get everyone into buying portable vic, it would definitely be popular. My point still stands though, runepass was more successful then portable vic. They make like an extra $200 by adding the wc outfit. It's still dead content.


Why do you think the game with less players is getting more mxt then the game with more players? Wouldn't all these products be in osrs if these products were so popular? oops! :D :D :D


I don't think Jagex is going to add xp items to Portable Vic because they are the thing people pay for. They want Portable Vic to be an extra revenue stream, or actually to be more exact, an extra attraction to make bond more appealing. They are not going to rob TH to pay Vic or Bond. :D

I see elite skilling outfits are good enough sweeteners for a reason. Key buyers are very likely not hardcore skillers. Letting Portable Vic buyers get some skilling bonus may help them to get some skillers to spend, perhaps?

The reason OSRS doesn't have these products is probably Fukong Interactive has given OSRS a grace period when they bought Jagex. If it was another owner like an investment firm like IVP, I am pretty sure you could have Open Store to buy at least some cosmetics in OSRS last year. ;)

20-May-2019 21:15:51

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Jagex resorting to drug dealer tactics (the so-called "first taste is free" strategy) with Treasure Hunter again:

https://redd.it/bxeedr

Yet another reason to be rid of this crappy system. :P
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06-Jun-2019 15:53:24

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I don’t really have a problem with TH imo free stuff is free stuff I don’t mind if it’s random I think getting free keys from doing quest and skilling etc is fine and useing them on TH. i think
What people have a problem with is the option to buy keys. But then Agian some
Players think game upkeep is free and just come out of the void and no one pays for it.
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06-Jun-2019 16:52:38

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Epic Jamar said :
I don’t really have a problem with TH imo free stuff is free stuff I don’t mind if it’s random I think getting free keys from doing quest and skilling etc is fine and useing them on TH. i think
What people have a problem with is the option to buy keys. But then Agian some
Players think game upkeep is free and just come out of the void and no one pays for it.

Nobody (seriously) thinks Jagex is offering Runescape and its upkeep for free; we're paying for the membership subscription after all, are we not? If the membership subscription wasn't enough to make a profit, then how come that RS3 (across its lifespan starting from RS1) has not had any MTX for more than half of its existence and has still survived just fine without it during that time?

Whether you make X amount of money from Y amount of players with membership money only, or X amount of money from Z (where Z < Y) amount of players with membership+MTX makes no difference to Jagex. It makes all the difference for us players though, because MTX negatively affects the game design and development, or else it wouldn't sell. :P
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06-Jun-2019 17:09:57

Dilbert2001
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Sharp-shin said :
Epic Jamar said :
I don’t really have a problem with TH imo free stuff is free stuff I don’t mind if it’s random I think getting free keys from doing quest and skilling etc is fine and useing them on TH. i think
What people have a problem with is the option to buy keys. But then Agian some
Players think game upkeep is free and just come out of the void and no one pays for it.

Nobody (seriously) thinks Jagex is offering Runescape and its upkeep for free; we're paying for the membership subscription after all, are we not? If the membership subscription wasn't enough to make a profit, then how come that RS3 (across its lifespan starting from RS1) has not had any MTX for more than half of its existence and has still survived just fine without it during that time?

Whether you make X amount of money from Y amount of players with membership money only, or X amount of money from Z (where Z < Y) amount of players with membership+MTX makes no difference to Jagex. It makes all the difference for us players though, because MTX negatively affects the game design and development, or else it wouldn't sell. :P


McDonald's doesn't need to sell apple pies and still be profitable. But do you have a problem when they want to make even more profits selling apple pies, ice cream and more?

06-Jun-2019 22:59:47

Dilbert2001
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Yoiola said :
I'm ok with TH and SGS, I just hope not many people buy keys compulsively (and if they do, I hope a limit is in place and they seek professional help, but that's digressing maybe). What I would like though it's a bit less promotion updates and a bit more regular content updates, for sure.

Dilbert2001 said :


McDonald's doesn't need to sell apple pies and still be profitable. But do you have a problem when they want to make even more profits selling apple pies, ice cream and more?


So sad McDonald's doesn't sell apple pies anymore here in Italy.


"The World Health Organization (WHO) officially recognized gaming disorder over the weekend as a part of its 11th edition of the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11). This was a decision the industry was awaiting since the WHO detailed its intentions last summer."


ICD-11 officially recognized gaming disorder, with or without TH, with or without MTX. So what?
Why just blame MTX when all video games cause gaming disorder or even mental illness
?

Does McDonald's start selling Mcspaghetti (TM) in Italy now? Or will they if not now? That's the question... a question of marketing... based on Natural Selection.

Like all the Mc-MTX (TM pending) :P ... all real world companies won't settle for minimal profits. They always want to add more in-store purchase, in-mail purchase, in-app purchase to bring in even more profits. Why can't video game companies do that? Why can't Jagex do that?

08-Jun-2019 17:49:17 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2019 17:49:55 by Dilbert2001

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They can add all those juicy MTX in their games all they want, but then they'll be scratching their heads wondering why revenue from said games are suffering, just take a look at Anthem and Fallout 76. Perfect combination of MTX, not delivering on promise, false advertisement, troubled launch.

Oh yea, there's Apex Legends too, a free game. No need to wait for their quarterly report, Respawn Entertainment has already admitted in E3 that Apex Legends was not doing well and they will need to be more diligent in the future if they want to make a comeback.
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