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To support the OP's endavours right here I must point out an issue that has been here for a long time making us bump into fmods over and over, our threads being deleted/closed/ruined due to fmods actions.

Your posts should be appropriate content.


We do not need your spam on these forums; that includes unnecessary duplicate threads and offtopic/hijacking posts .


Good Forumer Guidance


If you spot a thread where you disagree with the poster's opinion, rather than argue with them across multiple pages of their thread consider creating a new thread with your own opinion .


A lot of threads ... yes lots of
have been erased from existence because '
Good Forumer Guidance
became all of a sudden
Your posts should be appropriate content
thus making another thread, made by another player, about the same subject been seen as spam.

This weird '
loop
' has been used/abused for years without fmods doing something about it.

Forum moderators have never ever done something about this 'weird loop' other than cater it when it suited them.

01-Aug-2022 09:58:36

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About forum moderators and former forum moderators ... 'stop complaining about' '
Jagex/JMods
' and '
The RuneScape Official Forums
'.

You all '
solicitated
' for the job and you all '
agreed upon maintaining
' these forums in good health so The RuneScape Community could benefit including Jagex/JMods.

Whether or not Jagex/JMods do make it difficult/hard to do your job as a moderator, stop whining about Jagex's absence or the state of these forums.
Negativity also becomes a '
looping event
' if you do not stop talking about it over and over. You took and accepted the quest so see it through and make the best out of it.

01-Aug-2022 10:12:16

SushiCombo
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Unfortunately, it is much easier and direct for Jagex to communicate via other social channels like reddit/twitter. The forum mods have no control over the state of these dead forums, only Jagex can take responsibility here.

They could have leveraged the forums and incorporate many cool things like direct player PM's which was a very big request back in the day and still is. Provide in-game item incentives to actively participate would be a cool start.

The whole rs website honestly needs a whole do-over. But in general, Game forums have been declining for a very long time. It's a sad reality.

01-Aug-2022 20:37:10

Spearmint30
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SushiCombo said :
But in general, Game forums have been declining for a very long time. It's a sad reality.
This also feels true. Linear threaded style boards don't seem to be as popular with communities as they were 20... 15... even 10 years ago.
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02-Aug-2022 08:27:01

Miu

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Forums are dead because:
Too many subforums, too few players. There are more subforums than there are active users, and some subforums are self-contained. Off-topic users will stick to off-topic. Oldschool users, which has more players but less forum users, obviously won't partake in RS3 topics. It's hard to have a discussion when everyone is divided.

No JMod presence. People will go to where they can get their feedback heard. It isn't here.

There's also a few persistent, toxic members of the community that moderation has done little about. While in isolation their comments aren't particularly offensive, new players will leave feedback, get a pedantic troll post that takes their feedback out of context, and be discouraged from ever posting again. Even if the post itself isn't technically against the rules, the damage done to the community cannot be undone, and moderators' hands are tied.

All of these factors mean that there's no new blood flowing into the forums, and they're all leaving for elsewhere. Lack of Jagex support, lack of clear direction for both the game and its forums, lack of communication with FMods, are all bigger issues. FMod power abuse is a rare thing, and FMods acting in bad faith are easily removed by Jagex.

P.S. price check threads are just price manipulation and you can't convince me otherwise :)
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02-Aug-2022 17:10:56 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2022 17:17:34 by Miu

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Rooh said :
Pis2ols said :

The only thing stopping forums from becoming popular again is the forum moderation team. I loved using forums in the past but it's sad to see moderators kill off traffic over the past few years.


So if the entire FMod team was replaced or FMods were scrapped altogether, the forums would magically become a whole lot more popular?
I doubt it.

Forums need some form of moderation and from my experience with several other forums I use, the RS forums are very easy going and lightly moderated...
If forum moderators would be scraped off The RSOF said forums would become 'popular' indeed but for the most obvious wrong reasons as culprits/bad people would take over, taking control over The RSOF.

So yes, I agree some form of moderation needs to be held in place to take away these rotten people but since they know you people are here, they have learned themselves how to play your people to stay low enough to not attract too much attention.

Problem is, players yes really passionate/loud/enthousiastic players whom voice their opinion right here straight from their chest, whom have their own ways of communicating and dealing with others are quickly victim of what they call 'over-moderation' which basically kills anything they wanna achieve here in The RSOF.

Language specialists/antropologists/data scientists claim to know the difference and how to moderate crowds like The RuneScape Community but they are wrong.

04-Aug-2022 10:21:44

Rooh
Jan
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2006

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2_Tron said :

If forum moderators would be scraped off The RSOF said forums would become 'popular' indeed


I guess we'll never agree on this point, you seem to have decided that we're the bad guys here.

If you think back though, when the forums were very busy and very popular the FMod team was huge compared to now and everything worked just fine back then... so I don't think FMods are the problem. At all.

I'll leave it there as we seem to have completely different ideas about what would make the forums popular again.
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

04-Aug-2022 12:21:20

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@Rooh, since you have cut out a tiny fragment of said post to me it says something different than our agreement about a point of view.

To me it seems as you being afraid to lose something, something that is precious to you personally.

What makes something popular?
Places where young people have the freedom to meet each other without intervention of adults or their interference. Places that meet these young people's interest.
New gadgets, new innovating platforms, new life enrichment programs are the things young people are searching for.

That made places like The RSOF popular but that is hard to get for The RSOF or Social Media as they all have passed that moment many years ago.

Back in the day things didn't work that well at all but the amount of attention/focus from The RuneScape Community was that overwhelming that flaws in the system at Jagex/JMods as well as forum moderators was unrecognizable/hardly noticed.
Put on top of that also a more strict leadership with a huge moderating structure and you were quickly lost inbetween the gaps of things that went wrong.

I do not demonstrate that you are the bad guys here but you people are hard to talk about as you quickly build yourselves a huge wall and from behind that huge wall dictating that people on the otherside are the ones doing things wrong over & over.

04-Aug-2022 13:17:16

Roddy Piper
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"@Rooh, since you have cut out a tiny fragment of said post to me it says something different than our agreement about a point of view."

That's quite a problem isn't it? Literally, the next word he did not quote was "but"

04-Aug-2022 13:53:17

Rooh
Jan
fmod Member
2006

Rooh

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2_Tron said :

I do not demonstrate that you are the bad guys here but you people are hard to talk about as you quickly build yourselves a huge wall and from behind that huge wall dictating that people on the other side are the ones doing things wrong over & over.


Absolutely not, I'm merely expressing a different opinion, and as for the wall... isn't this thread breaking that wall ? (if it exists at all).

I don't know of any other forums where you can criticise moderation and talk about it as openly as we're doing here.

This is an interesting thread, a chance for us all to discuss our various views on the subject, and if I appear to be defensive I apologise, I just wanted to speak my piece... which naturally means speaking as an FMod... but even if I wasn't in this position my opinion would stand, social media killed the forums, not the FMods.
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

04-Aug-2022 16:09:01

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