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04-Apr-2021 16:28:03

2_Tron

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Loki said :
... I think what needs to happen is:

1. Mod Kari creates a forum thread to discuss updating the rules, gather feedback from ALL people who post on the forums. One thread that automatically hides posts if people want their suggestions to be hidden from others, and one public thread which everyone can discuss and maybe brainstorm together, or agree/disagree with others.

2. After a month, both threads are locked/removed, then the suggestions are trawled through, Kari has further discussions about the proposals within the FMod forums (as they've got a lot of moderation experience on here and know what will and will not work), and then the new rules aligned with Jagex' business model or whatever needs to be done, and then we get new rules put in place that can relax things a lot more.


Hopefully once that is sorted out, we can get some long overdue forum updates, and then Jagex starts encouraging staff internally to use the forums a lot more, thus bringing more life back here.
I can not find a good reason to agree with this.

1.
Why create a thread with secrets, secretly messaging Jagex/JMods and afterwards '
again
' create a new book of moderation secrets that already does exist and annoys most of The RuneScape Community as it is hard to figure out what we are dealing with.


2.
For years in the moderation forums there are discussions going on and we do not know 'what kind of discussions/how they do proceed/where it leads to' thus leaving us in total darkness of its feasibility. We are adults.


As a whole, we have done this multiple times and always it leads to the same picture, not getting us anywhere.

04-Apr-2021 17:55:29

Dilbert2001
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@2_Tron

When the FBI do their investigations, they don't tell you what they are doing and how they are doing them as well as at what state they are, right? We the players aren't entitled to know everything the authorities are doing behind the scenes.

There are many occasions I don't think FH and FMR have done the right things but overall I still respect the due process set up for us and I am happy with Mod Kari's decisions and the CM's help to let us at least know something although it is not the entire picture. For instance, in an occasion they told me at least one Fmod was disciplined but they didn't tell me what about the others, how many was "at least 1", who are they and what actions did they take on them, but just be realistic, that's already enough information as they have no obligation to tell us everything we think we need to know. :)

04-Apr-2021 19:36:47 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2021 19:42:49 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :
@2_Tron

When the FBI d... :)
What a bag of bullshit ... geezzz!!!
Look, I have no idea if you do use The RSOF a lot or not, what works best is to give everything you say a clear coating so we can see what it all is about so we can respond to it fair & square, as that's how moderators have pushed us around in those 10+ years.
As how moderators bring it, don't beat around the bush, be straight forward, short and sweet, so we all know where we are getting at.

Alright, make it the way you like as you won't see me take part in such hide & seek parties, just like those invitations of 'meet me in-game and we can talk' and more of such stuff because it is leading nowhere to than strange groups of people liking each other for the sake of being power hungry and living beside the truth, living apart from The RuneScape Community.

If you wanna be a moderator you have to live and move yourself among the players you like to moderate and not evolve yourself as a strange entity.

04-Apr-2021 19:58:01

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2_Tron said :
Dilbert2001 said :
@2_Tron

When the FBI d... :)
What a bag of bullshit ... geezzz!!!
Look, I have no idea if you do use The RSOF a lot or not, what works best is to give everything you say a clear coating so we can see what it all is about so we can respond to it fair & square, as that's how moderators have pushed us around in those 10+ years.
As how moderators bring it, don't beat around the bush, be straight forward, short and sweet, so we all know where we are getting at.

Alright, make it the way you like as you won't see me take part in such hide & seek parties, just like those invitations of 'meet me in-game and we can talk' and more of such stuff because it is leading nowhere to than strange groups of people liking each other for the sake of being power hungry and living beside the truth, living apart from The RuneScape Community.

If you wanna be a moderator you have to live and move yourself among the players you like to moderate and not evolve yourself as a strange entity.


You don't seem to understand we players aren't the judges or the juries. We can't expect everything to be presented in front of us and let us make the judgements.

There is no hide and seek parties. We don't come to the forums to talk about specific issues specific to me or anybody else. We talk about the due process - FH and FMR. If you have any suggestions on how to improve the process, it should be discussed. However, if you are just complaining about certain FMods then I am afraid it belongs in FMR.

Thanks Guthix I don't want to be a moderator whatsoever, but I appreciate the help of Mod Kari and the CMs even the issues bugging me are far from being dealt with. :)

04-Apr-2021 20:11:02

Dilbert2001
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Wilf said :
These two going back and forth should be fun

I can't decide if this can be classed as targeting specific players or not though... Oh well.


Don't know who these "two" are you talking about. I only made one reply to one user, and two to another users. That's it. Shrug! :D

04-Apr-2021 20:26:56

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I have hidden a post in this thread for making unfounded accusations about the behaviour of FMods, as well as two posts quoting it.

I think this thread can lead to valuable feedback about what forumers think regarding moderation styles, the rules as they are and how they are interpreted, and more, and I'd like to see it continue in a positive way.

With that said, let's please keep things pertinent to the topic at hand and leave the wild accusations and flaming out of it. This thread is a chance for an open discussion regarding moderation that I think is healthy to have, but I'd like the thread to please stay on track and within the rules!

Thanks everyone!
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