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Greyjoy

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I agree with the fact that it's RNG based and especially since the mats are expensive now, but they will eventually drop in price and after higher leveled artifacts are obtained, you can use the same mats to restore them. You get more XP and the mats are cheaper. After around 85 the skill gets much much more faster. I for one actually enjoy this skill. Not just all of the new lore and areas to explore, but for the first time in years people are actually communicating, and helping each other out with most of the challenges.
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05-Apr-2020 05:29:59

Spady
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(Drumgun you're a legend, new ranks are newfish)

I agree the skill is a joke and that Jagex are sellouts, but for different reasons. Here's the problem...it's supposed to be a GATHERING skill. Gathering skills are to make profit. Can you make profit? At the moment while everyone is racing for 99/120/200m, yes. But here's the problem: for the first time in rs history, the materials gathered from a gathering skill solely go back into the same skill. Fishing feeds cooking and combat, Mining feeds smithing and combat, Divination feeds invention, Woodcutting feeds firemaking/fletching/construction. This means those gathering skills will always be profitable. However, since arch self-feeds, when its popularity dies down, the profits will die with it. It's not really a gathering skill as much as a gathering+buyable skill rolled into one. It's not sustainable profit longterm. The only way it may still be in the long run is the insanely op rewards they've added to it - which are game breaking and I assume will be nerfed in the future. Why do I think Jagex are sellouts because of this? They didn't have the balls to make two skills, like with div and invent. It would be well balanced if it were two skills. But nope, like Drum said, they had to feed the bond/th buyers with a gathering skill lol.

P.S. should have been an elite skill.

06-Apr-2020 12:20:53

Scott M
Feb Member 2016

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Wilf said :
Scott M said :
Been years since Invention came out, so you've had years to prep for the new skill. There was always a risk that the new skill would cost money, so I don't think it is unfair that those 5.4bers who were sensible enough to make bank in-case the new skill required it have an advantage - nothing was stopping you grinding out GP too.

Having said that, you're a legend of the game mate, in the same bracket as people like Telmomarques, Timlahaye, Aasiwat etc. So I wouldn't worry too much if you don't make top page this time around.


Ah but there is one thing that sets Drumgun apart from all the others and that's that he can play Castle Wars :D

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06-Apr-2020 15:40:04

Konota
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I rather have a healthy condition, especially during these corona times than a no-sleep competition. Not sure why you're sad. But I'l join the fanbase squad: Awwhhhhh 2badman, maybe next time, gather more cash to prep more. :) Hello Moto

09-Apr-2020 09:12:41 - Last edited on 09-Apr-2020 09:13:15 by Konota

Tenebri
Jan Member 2015

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im enjoying it. im still sleepng 8hours a night

but with way world is right now. its either RS or watch netflix.

but yeah im enjoying it. sure there is some RNG involved when it comes to tomes. i had 4 on my alt before i had 1 on this account. in the long run i dont believe that would have made a huge effect on who #1 was going to end up being.

im racing myself. i have a goal for my overal rank but wont be hardhearted if it doesnt happen


i did prep for it. but not enough only 400k crystal chins 11k porters. but ohwell by time i use them all they would have hopefully of dropped. and ill buy more then not like i can use 20k chins in 4 hours anyway so doesnt matter too much how preped you were with the chins

im tempted to put offer in for hero mattock as that is op asf. but i cant buy it now or ill have 0 gp to buy mats :L
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09-Apr-2020 14:19:23 - Last edited on 09-Apr-2020 14:21:29 by Tenebri

Loki
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Don Auror said :
Oh Drummy you dummy, you don't need to be #1 in any skill anymore, you'll always remain #1 in eveyrone's heart :) No.
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09-Apr-2020 21:01:00

Loki
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Tbh I'm not too sure why you're complaining - you already have 2 skills as rank 1, share the spotlight around? Maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer to see a limit on how many rank 1's someone can get, to 1, just to share them around.

I do agree with the general responses on here though, a skill shouldn't require 50B+ banks just to get anywhere. I know I had no chance even getting top 100 due to still having to go to work, but it would've been nice to at least try get top 250.


As for the skill itself, I like it a lot, although it is quite annoying that you don't ever gather enough materials to finish all the artifacts you collect between levels. This skill should not require me to gather supplies on an alt just to keep up, because of prices of materials are ludicrous. It's quite cool how you have to hop between each digsite just to gain levels - you're able to have conversations at a low level, with people higher than you and get tips, and vice versa.... however once people get 120, a lot of those spots are going to feel so empty and dead.
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09-Apr-2020 21:07:41

Loki
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Thus I Atone said :
As someone who is just going for 120, I really like what they did with the skill so far. Someone else said it before me:
Sal VJ said :
I understand that some people want to be in the top 25 or whatever, but most people just play for fun, I hope. And this ^.

I'm personally going straight for 200M, but I'm now just going to take my time with it and enjoy the skill for what it is, not miss out on sleep and take time off work to gain a few pixels... :P

This is ultimately a game, and games are for fun.
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09-Apr-2020 21:09:48

CaptKoloth
Feb Member 2008

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Spady said :
(Drumgun you're a legend, new ranks are newfish)

I agree the skill is a joke and that Jagex are sellouts, but for different reasons. Here's the problem...it's supposed to be a GATHERING skill. Gathering skills are to make profit. Can you make profit? At the moment while everyone is racing for 99/120/200m, yes. But here's the problem: for the first time in rs history, the materials gathered from a gathering skill solely go back into the same skill. Fishing feeds cooking and combat, Mining feeds smithing and combat, Divination feeds invention, Woodcutting feeds firemaking/fletching/construction. This means those gathering skills will always be profitable. However, since arch self-feeds, when its popularity dies down, the profits will die with it. It's not really a gathering skill as much as a gathering+buyable skill rolled into one. It's not sustainable profit longterm. The only way it may still be in the long run is the insanely op rewards they've added to it - which are game breaking and I assume will be nerfed in the future. Why do I think Jagex are sellouts because of this? They didn't have the balls to make two skills, like with div and invent. It would be well balanced if it were two skills. But nope, like Drum said, they had to feed the bond/th buyers with a gathering skill lol.

P.S. should have been an elite skill.

I kind of agree with you on the self feeding thing. I also feel that once the big shots are 200mil exp, than the skill will be balanced. Nerfed as you say. Always the way. Oh btw, there are already daily challenges for the skill. Do not think they did that with Divination or Invention, in the beginning. Divination had no helps in boosting, in the beginning at all. Why I was proud getting 99 Divination early. I did it on my own steam. I enjoy Archeology. Particularly doing the mysteries. I am not very far. level 67

10-Apr-2020 10:01:02 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2020 10:03:06 by CaptKoloth

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