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Joel said :

...talk to the car and have whatever I say play out of the external speaker in a Darth Vader style voice haha


Ok, now I really want one.
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05-Jan-2022 10:22:04

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It was in the news fairly recently that a Tesla car videod a woman damaging it ( she was prosecuted ). Iirc the cameras around the car activated whenever someone came within a few metres and they caught her deliberately scratching the paintwork ( I think she keyed the whole side ).
Personally I find it creepy that a car can film anyone and everyone walking near it. A friend's house has cars parking right outside his sitting room window just the width of a pavement away. They usually park facing his house and if it was a Tesla does that mean it'd be filming everything that goes on inside that room? Is it clever enough to know the difference between people/dogs outside and inside?

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Tesla's has what they call Sentry Mode. The car's cameras (front, each side and back) are multi-purpose, used for AutoPilot while driving, including Dashcam and then when parked, Sentry Mode (if enabled by the owner).

The car will constantly record but only if a Sentry Mode event is triggered will it save the footage. So it simply being parked on the street doesn't mean it's saving all that footage.

It has different alert levels. A low level alert is if someone gets closer to the car (e.g walks passed or stands near). The lights will flash and the screen inside will alert the person that Sentry Mode is enabled and is recording them. A higher alert is if someone tries to break into the car or someone hits it, which will trigger the alarm and notify the owner via the App on their phone.

Each event will save a clip to the computer for the driver, usually 5/10mins leading up to the event and a few minutes after the event.

That's what many people who vandalize Tesla's do not realize lol and then end up getting caught lol. There's a YouTube Channel called Wham Baam Teslacam that people submit their interesting footage of vandals or dangerous drivers etc.

The car definitely knows the difference between a person and a dog. When driving, the visualization (for AutoPilot) does show people and dogs (also the size, small or large), including a ton of other objects. It'll distinguish people, cyclists, motorcycles, cars, SUVs, trucks, busses in addition to road markings, speed signs, traffic lights, stop signs, cones/bollards etc :)
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05-Jan-2022 17:43:34

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Joel is 100% correct.

Sentry Mode is very helpful when it comes to vandalism, though as with everything, it does have its drawbacks with power usage. If you do have a place to charge the car (be that at home or a destination charger nearby), I would consider using this 100% of the time unless you know an area is totally secure (i.e - garage).

Autopilot can indeed tell the difference between a car, person, dog, cyclist, motorbike etc. I was recently invited into the FSD beta fold here in the U.S. and I must say it is a marvel to see the car drive itself.. or just how much detail the car itself provides. The drawback however, is that it's heavily dependent on lane markings.. so if there's none, expect the car to mess up although it at times handles it fine. It is now learning visualize speed bumps. That's pretty cool, but again, a TON of work to do. No one even comes close to Tesla right now.
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05-Jan-2022 18:55:07

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I meant can the car tell the difference between when someone is outside or if they're inside the house? My friend has had a Tesla park outside his house and he feels that if it can film him in his own home its an invasion of his privacy. If he was standing in the room near the window he'd be less than 6 feet away from the front of the car.
edit to add: the reason I asked about dogs is that he has a daschund who like to sit on the window seat so would be even closer and also higher up than ground level.

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Megycal said :
I meant can the car tell the difference between when someone is outside or if they're inside the house? My friend has had a Tesla park outside his house and he feels that if it can film him in his own home its an invasion of his privacy. If he was standing in the room near the window he'd be less than 6 feet away from the front of the car.


The owner can exclude Sentry Mode from recording when he is at home and/or at work (doesnt matter if outside/inside). The car (as with any other car as far back as maybe 2010 or less) has GPS. It's not an invasion of privacy as the video would be for his view only. Tesla does not view that at all. You can only ask for dashcam footage in the event that you have been in an accident and you cant retrieve the footage. There's hoops to go through for that request though.

If the car does not have Sentry Mode turned off, at no time is the car recording him or it's surroundings.
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05-Jan-2022 19:32:40

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Just to add onto Kathy's post; If he's in the house or even outside the house, he or someone else would need to actually go next to the car to trigger Sentry Mode to activate and even then, it'll only show the owner the last 5/10mins leading up to that event.

If they're nowhere near the car (e.g the car is on the street and he's in the house) then even if Sentry Mode is turned on/active, it's not actively saving footage unless there's an event. He'd know if something he does in the window would trigger an event because the car's headlights, indicators and rear lights would flash.

A recent update allows the driver to remotely view the live feed from the cameras via the App, but again, that isn't recorded, it's just the live feed, and Tesla also put a daily data limit on that too - so you couldn't have a person with their app open all day viewing the feed for hours on end.
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05-Jan-2022 19:56:08 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2022 19:57:28 by Joel

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The parked cars are very close to the front of his house.Its an old long established street ( his house is at least 250 years old ) and the pavement is narrow, maybe around 4feet wide in places. You get close to anything parked there just walking past. Your clothes could even brush the car.

05-Jan-2022 23:01:55

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Yeah that would likely set it off :P (if enabled)

But you'd know if you did set it off anyway as the lights would flash. If I get back into my car and it has a high number of events shown and no visible damage to my car I won't even review all the clips lol and they'll eventually be overwritten.

With a side walk that narrow I can imagine if a ton of people walk past it'll trigger a lot so the owner may actually just turn it off.
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06-Jan-2022 00:06:29

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Joel said :
Seeker said :
Plus the southerners recently had a traffic jam due to heavy snowfall where cars were stuck in traffic for 10+ and ran out of electric power leaving them stranded. Emergency crew with ATVs and snowmobiles had to come and rescue them.
I read some recent calculation someone did comparing a typical gas car VS an electric car if both were to get stuck in the snow and stranded etc.

EVs use very little energy when stationary. If you just ran the HVAC to keep the car decently heated, maybe even used heated seats which would be even more efficient it would last a lot longer than a typical gas car running their engine to keep warm. But obviously who knows of unique situations where maybe someone doesn't have a full charge etc

But if I had the choice if I were to be stranded.. being stuck in my quiet energy efficient EV watching YouTube or Netflix with the heat on would be my choice :P
Thought I'd follow up on this given I just read about someone in a Model Y who was stuck in Virginia on the I-95 that has been in the news.

They were stuck for 16 hours. They used 13% of their battery while in 'Camp' mode which keeps the HVAC running at the desired temperature, had a nap, watched some Netflix before finally being able to get on their way... 13%!
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