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Tuffty said :
https://www.unilad.co.uk/technology/tesla-catches-fire-and-engulfs-house-in-flames/

I think they need more work. Seems to be catching fire a lot. I'd have to re-lookup what the statistic is but electric cars actually catch fire at a significantly lower rate than petrol cars. They're also much safer in terms of having a lower center of gravity (less likely to flip in an accident) and the lack of an engine in the front means head-on collisions are more likely to result in the driver and passengers walking away since there's no engine that can get pushed back into the cabin.

The problem is, while in a given day in the US alone there could be 100s or 1000s of car fires (they do sit upon a tank of highly flammable liquid remember), if there's so much as 1 EV that catches fire, that'll make headlines while the 100 petrol car fires go unreported.

Joel

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03-Dec-2021 20:31:49

So True Joel.

1 Tesla burns a house down and as you say it makes the headlines.

Any other car would have not even made it to the last page of the paper.

I'd still not have 1 though lol. I like the risk sitting on a tank of fuel. Comprehensive Account Security

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07-Dec-2021 15:22:52 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2021 15:23:52 by Rooh

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Spot on Joel!

Smells like fellow TSLA shareholder... Full disclosure! Absolutely!

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07-Dec-2021 16:32:07

Rooh said :
A question about self-driving cars... if there's a crash, who is responsible?

Logic says it will still be the driver (or person behind the wheel) but it can't be long before someone tries to contest it in court. I think we're in the beginning of a paradigm shift that we haven't seen in decades if not longer!

As it currently stands, whether you're in a regular gas car with some lane assist software, a Tesla with Basic Autopilot or a Tesla with the new Full Self Driving (FSD) beta rolled out to a small % of Tesla owners - the driver is ultimately responsible. Any dangerous maneuver the car's software performs requires the driver to immediately take control.

If you watch any YouTube videos of Tesla's FSD beta it's actually incredible (you'll also find ones where it fails badly too, in fairness)! They're trying to solve the vision-only problem - removing radar, LiDAR etc and relying solely on the cameras so the car can see the world around it, and understand context, context that radar etc cannot give it. What the car sees (Tesla call it their Vector Space) even into the distance is amazing, but it still has a long way to go and does make mistakes in very niche circumstances.

If we fast forward way into the future, when a higher % of vehicles are cloud connected, making decisions for themselves through autonomous driving, they'll then have the capabilities to communicate with other self-driving cars, so decisions each car is making or looking to make can be communicated and anticipated by other self driving cars - if we can reach that point, the whole system of insurance and driver liability is likely to be turned upside down and need to be re-designed It'll no longer be fit for purpose.

But until then, we're in the middle of a massive shift and it'll take time to move closer to the aspirations mentioned above.

Until then, ultimately the driver is still responsible.

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