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@CIti, yeah I drive a Model 3 :) Bought just over a year ago and it's the single best thing I've ever bought! I'm not a big car guy either, like not at all, although I love driving. But I am big into gadgets and tech and these cars are just new gadgets/tech on wheels lol

Tesla has their fingers in so many pies at this point it's going to be hard for the likes of GM, VW, Ford etc to catch up. So many people assume Tesla will diminish as soon as 'the competition' catches up without realizing Tesla's strong position, and the fact that just because the legacy automotive companies have been around for such a long time, it's assumed that as soon as they move (if, not necessarily when) to EV they'll dominate - Making an ICE car vs an EV car isn't really the same thing, unless you're only focusing on the wheels, doors, windows etc lol.

Tesla have (in my opinion) some of the best (if not the best) EVs on the market, albeit a little expensive right now but they'll be in a position earlier to lower costs and still make a profit. They have the best (without question) Supercharging network worldwide, data collection from their cars, energy storage, insurance and so on...

I've had a few friends recently look into getting an EV and with the package you get from Tesla vs others is just so much more comprehensive - But, I do hope many of the other car makers do catch up because the most important thing is switching to a more sustainable mode of transportation and moving away from fossil fuels.

And that's the thing, I don't think Tesla is looking to push anyone out. They've already offered other car companies use of their charging network and up until recently, the others have declined (there's a trial in Norway I think right now).
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08-Dec-2021 15:05:25

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Rooh said :
I've mentioned it before but the thing I'd really miss with an electric car is the sound of an engine.
I came across this though, an engine noise synthesizer!
https://youtu.be/HmDXE3o8dMc?t=306
...and the great thing is you can choose different sounds.
I get that! But I guess as you said, you can synthesize :P

Plus, if you drive a half decent EV (e.g Tesla), the feeling you get from driving it may surprise you and actually make you forget about loving the noise of an engine so much :P

There's nothing quite like a silent blast of acceleration with just a faint high pitch noise making it sound a little like a futuristic rocket :P
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08-Dec-2021 15:08:03

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My mate ordered the new Model S Plaid a few months ago, he had it delivered last month. I had chance to drive it last weekend, oh my god. Fastest production car ever made.

It's 0-60 in 1.9 seconds (who needs a car that fast? lol). I can't even put into words how fast it is, and instant too.
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08-Dec-2021 16:34:41 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2021 16:35:04 by Joel

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I don't know if anyone outside the UK is aware of the fact that parts of the UK were without electricity for over a week after storm Arwen. The storm brought trees and power lines down and lots of snow in some places. Thousands were affected and iirc a couple of hundred were still without power yesterday. If they had also all had EVs they could have been in danger because they might not have been able to travel to somewhere that had heating and hot food even if the roads were clear. Some areas had volunteers taking supplies to people and checking everyone was safe. Basically I'm saying if the vehicles were all electric then their situation would have been even worse.
EVs are viable
IF
there is a good network of public charging points,
IF
you don't need to travel long distances very often,
IF
you have a stable electricity supply that won't get damaged by storms and lastly
IF
they are affordable for the average person.

08-Dec-2021 18:33:45 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2021 18:34:29 by Megycal

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Very good points!

What I would say to that is... If we don't move to more renewable sources of energy in both its generation and also in travel and moving away from fossil fuels, storms will continue to increase in severity and its impacts.

It also doesn't mean petrol isn't vulnerable to disruption either - just looked what happened a few weeks ago with petrol shortages and the massive disruption that caused.

But again, it's a transition. As more move to EVs, the infrastructure will also get more investment and improve as time goes on and that's currently already happening.

EVs are also getting better on range too, that combined with an increasingly more accessible charging network will hopefully minimize 'range anxiety' fears. To your point about storms and the disruption they cause through electrical outages... what happens when a petrol station loses power? Petrol pumps won't work and you wouldn't be able to buy petrol.

And also (because I've seen a few memes recently, probably because we've just entered winter), there's this comparison between an EV and petrol car and being stranded in a snowstorm or traffic in the cold etc and comments about "I'd rather be in a petrol car in that situation than an EV with a draining battery" - setting the car's AC system to a reasonable temperature perhaps with heated seats as well will mean your car's battery in an EV will typically last quite a substantial amount of hours longer than a tank of petrol with an engine running (not evening mentioning the potential for carbon monoxide poisoning from the exhaust too).

I believe most work commutes etc in a car are a lot shorter than the typical range of a decent EV. If you're a person who drives to and from work and also charge at home overnight (which as of right now most EV owners do) you'd expect that each day, you're sitting at a decent % of charge, so any outage (while a valid risk and concern) I would hope isn't as big of an issue into the future.
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08-Dec-2021 19:37:48 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2021 19:38:28 by Joel

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@Joel you clearly know Tesla very well. Appreciate your knowledge of all things Tesla.

It seems over the past couple of months the market has been giving Tesla credit for all the things you mentioned. I love the "competition" in quotes -- they are partnering with the major auto makers and that's what Musk wants to do. He wants to completely change the way we drive. The best cars and keeping the air clean.

Awesome that you have a Model 3. My first car will be a Tesla for sure. Maybe the roadster? Or a Plaid S. They're working on a lower tier car too so their cars can hit the masses.

I'm pretty excited about the Cybertruck. My girlfriends think it looks ugly but they look so futuristic and sci-fi-ey. The Los Angeles police department made an order for a bunch of cybertrucks to replace all the current police cars. Pretty cool.

Also, Hertz's orders for Tesla cars is just a sample of what is to come...!
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12-Dec-2021 05:35:23

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SushiCombo said :
When it is time for the batteries to be replaced, are they able to recycle anything from them or does it go to a landfill ?
At the moment around 90% of the battery (I think even a little over 90%) can be recycled and as more vehicles start using batteries I'm sure new recycling companies will pop up increasing recycling capacity.

Not to mention that these batteries have quite a good lifespan - the battery should far outlive other aspects of the car itself with some degradation but nothing rendering them unusable (outside of battery faults etc).
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