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^ The change to EVs over gas vehicles is coming fast and will probably be faster than originally anticipated. That's not to say gas vehicles will be outlawed completely anytime soon but there'll come a point in time when an EV just makes more sense even from a cost perspective.
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29-Nov-2021 18:36:57

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Thunder Jinx said :
Do you appreciate the child labour that goes into mining the cobalt for the batteries?

What really needs to happen is that people need to get off their fat ass and ride a bicycle for short distances instead of taking their car to go anywhere and everywhere.


There are definitely places where snow falls and people don't shovel/bike lanes are not clear though. Where I live that is nearly half the year.
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29-Nov-2021 23:43:50

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Joel said :
^ The change to EVs over gas vehicles is coming fast and will probably be faster than originally anticipated. That's not to say gas vehicles will be outlawed completely anytime soon but there'll come a point in time when an EV just makes more sense even from a cost perspective.


This is what I am waiting for. I do a ton of green things, but if you look at the used market... electric cars are hard to come by and even then not cheap. I'm just not going to go 20-50k+ in the red to basically struggle to find a charging station.
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29-Nov-2021 23:45:41

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^ One of the many reasons Tesla is killing it and way ahead of legacy car companies because they’ve been underestimated for quite a while, yet have the most advanced software based vehicles and most importantly, have the charging infrastructure unlike any other car company. It’s not even close.

Even Ford‘s CEO recently acknowledged how Tesla is leading the way. Yet GM’s CEO this past week seemed to be living an alternative reality where she somehow thinks GM has the lead in EVs - not sure on what planet or what metric that is based on lol

It’s only a matter of time before Tesla releases a $25k EV which is their aim - and then it’ll be extremely hard for the legacy car companies to catch up.
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30-Nov-2021 00:10:25

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25k is still a lot for a car for the average household, however, a lot of people, for whatever reason, like to spend wayy out of their budget for cars. So much so that people are genuinely shocked when someone doesn't have a house payment (almost similar to having a degree and no student debt).

So, they may be successful at the 25k price point, but in all honesty, that is still too high for me. Once they start hitting the used market for 15k or under, then I would be in it.

Also, we have one gas station with a charging station near me. Grand Rapids isn't massive by any means, but it certainly isn't a small town where everyone knows everyone either.
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30-Nov-2021 02:28:50

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Using a bicycle to do the weekly food shopping isn't practical even when there's only 2 of you in the household. I live in a village with a small branch of the Co-op which has limited stock and is quite expensive so I go to a large supermarket. The closest large supermarket is over 4 miles away so it has to be the car. Tbh I don't own a bike because every road into the village is quite narrow, some have single track sections. I wouldn't feel safe cycling on any of them. I'm over 60 and haven't cycled for almost 30 years. A fall off a bike could be quite serious for me.

I will resist getting an electric car for as long as possible. The charging infrastructure isn't there (unless you live in the south east of the UK ). The battery range isn't there, which is why lots more charging stations are needed. Most of the time range isn't a problem but both my sons live over 100 miles away, one lives in a flat so no possiblity of recharging there. The other can't drive and doesn't have a driveway so no possibilty of recharging there either. The UK has a long way to go before I'd feel comfortable driving an EV.

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30-Nov-2021 13:07:08

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Averia Light said :
25k is still a lot for a car for the average household, however, a lot of people, for whatever reason, like to spend wayy out of their budget for cars. So much so that people are genuinely shocked when someone doesn't have a house payment (almost similar to having a degree and no student debt).

So, they may be successful at the 25k price point, but in all honesty, that is still too high for me. Once they start hitting the used market for 15k or under, then I would be in it.
I agree. Costs will come down as the technology gets better but it'll take a bit of time & investment to reach mass production on a wider scale, reducing production costs so the final product can be cheaper - Tesla is currently in the middle of doing that which is great news :)

Megycal said :
I will resist getting an electric car for as long as possible. The charging infrastructure isn't there (unless you live in the south east of the UK ). The battery range isn't there, which is why lots more charging stations are needed. Most of the time range isn't a problem but both my sons live over 100 miles away, one lives in a flat so no possiblity of recharging there. The other can't drive and doesn't have a driveway so no possibilty of recharging there either. The UK has a long way to go before I'd feel comfortable driving an EV.
I was back in the UK last week visiting family & was surprised to see a few EV chargers in my small hometown which was promising but you're right, charging availability has a long way to go - but news out last week regarding all new homes from next year I think it was? All must have EV charging capabilities which is awesome! :)
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30-Nov-2021 15:29:40

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New houses having charging points is a start but why aren't they also required to have solar panels? Imo it makes sense to have them added during the build. Not sure how it'll work for the homes that are being built without their own driveway.

30-Nov-2021 17:00:40

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Yeah solar should be included too. I'm sure there's plans and ideas around EV charging for houses that do not have driveways. Could be a slow roll-out of charging posts much like how parking meters are at the edge of the curb, as one example, on a street with terraced houses.

We'll see how it all goes. But it's nice to see some movement on it all, however small.
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