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Rikornak
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But wasn't the supposedly "great thing" about EoC that all styles were relevant and worth their risk? It would seem rather flawed if every style would be viable to PK with except Ranged due to the nature of it's ammunition. The main reason T55 ammo is important is PKing, as outside dangerous PvP DW Knifes are a far better option than the Gravite Shortbow anyway. The only combined option I could see as useful is if the ammo generating device would only require a 1-time payment to unlock it and a small GP fee to buy the item (or like Ava's device, a couple of arrows).

That even is something I think dungeoneering should work like (first purchase as an unlock, every thereafter as a cheaper reclaim), but I highly doubt something will happen almost seven years after release.

Seeing styles and EoC - they can't (and also shouldn't) ensure every style is adequate in every situation. Variety can only be there if for some situations certains tools are better than others. Else we only would have a golden hammer situation players will grap the same equipment no matter what the situation is.

Sure it could be better than it is now (especially with EoC being 4 years old now), but I really hope for a combat beta adressing the use of niche equipment for example. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

28-Dec-2016 08:16:20 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2016 08:58:19 by Rikornak

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this would be so helpful i just started an ironman challenge to be fully self sufficient including members but as ironman my mage gear is capped and lvl 20 and my range ger isnt much better aside from my weapons Hands of a skiller, Mind of a jester!

06-Jan-2017 07:01:42

Jaekob Caed
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Absolute support. I don't think the game needs to adopt a modern F2P model (whole game is free with subscription unlocking the higher end of features), this is one game I enjoy having a subscription, BUT...

I DO believe the free game should be good enough to make a player WANT to get membership. I believe that it shouldn't be essentially a demo, but rather, a full and high-quality game with the ability to pay for membership to unlock the rest as you would with a game expansion. Members should definitely get priority and have a lot more features than F2P but not to the point where F2P feels absolutely excluded from everything. People should be able to enjoy playing as F2P for life if they want, because if they're able to do that, they'll be far more likely to WANT to get a subscription to enjoy the rest of the game's content.

If RS updated the F2P game to be a lot more enjoyable for modern players (instead of maintaining the very outdated standard of a "free MMORPG" as it currently is), and invested in proper advertisement/marketing globally, we could very well see the game make a big resurgence in the modern MMO market. RS3, NXT and expansions are just three major things the game needs to be properly competitive. If Jagex invests the newfound investment money they have from being acquired by Zhongji Holding and tries to make both the free and P2P game more modern and competitive, we could possibly see player numbers rise closer to the game's "golden age" again. Hopefully that happens.

Oh, and a smaller note, they need to either allow players to remove the "Subscribe" button altogether, or make it much smaller and less intrusive. ~
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21-Jan-2017 09:06:40

Abhi

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I personally never saw the purpose of gravity knives. IMO, they are a totally waste piece of weaponry. With only 5 spaces for their range, stunscape makes them useless af.

I made a post regarding how tier 75 war priest armor is useable in f2p which gets no attention. That in my opinion is the biggest glitch ever combat wise.

These improvements would be pretty awesome for ironman mode xd.

I guess the main reason Jagex never really bothered adding tier 1 to 40 stuff is because it takes less than a day to get to level 50.

25-Jan-2017 18:05:00

Rikornak
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Hey thank you for your post - I'll go for your entries one by one:

Knives: The issue in here they had taken attack range into stat budget pre-EOC, but don't do this anymore nowadays (I am unsure if they'll do this at one point again) - and this is the reason why halberds are shining even against higher leveled weapons (see noxious scythe vs. zaros godsword) (of course it is even more extreme with melee weapons and their advanced interaction in the EoC). I wouldn't want to go too deeply into systems (otherwise I would have suggested more purely combat mechanic related things) and I also do not think a throwing knive should have the same range as a bow for instance. Ideally the reduced range would come with a different advantage

Warpriest: I thought this was fixed long ago. Is it something that just applies to current members or pure f2ps as well? I'll take a look into your thread later.

Tier 1-40: I hadn't tried it out for myself, I just think they should fill it out for consistency (and really an improved game flow) Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

26-Jan-2017 07:55:42 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2017 07:56:13 by Rikornak

Abhi

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Rikornak

Hey, just letting you know im a bridder (use all 3 combats) in eoc [do full armor, pray, wep switches] and not to be cocky, really, really good at it.

I personally think p2p combat is crap because it comes down to moneyscape. In F2P, everyone can gain access to the same tier of armor + weps, so there is more of a mental game. With hits not being as op, combat in f2p is actually fun because you have to strategize when to use anticipation, freedom, stuns, thresholds, and ultimates [ still think the prayer smashing mechanic is bs, especially for magic]. Yea, I know halberds are superior because they have a larger hit radius.

Main reason I say knives are trash in eoc is because, if the opponent does bind stun on you, then u r gg'ed. They can move outside of the 5 space radius and sweep with gravite shortbow + gravite staff. Some might then argue to use freedom but that will lead to even more cancerous dps with vulnerability to asphy, destroy, slaughter [rapid fire is still a joke to me]. Only dual handed range wep that has longer range is the javelin, but that is tier 50 not tier 55.

Yea i made countless threads, to patch it up but people do not care. It applies to current members being able to abuse the system and use tier 75 in f2p. BTW, I was the first person in 2013 and 2014 to make the forum posts to patch up the warp.

As for the tier 1 to 40, as an ironman player I totally support including those things.

27-Jan-2017 06:16:53

Abhi

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Rikornak

Hey, just letting you know im a bridder (use all 3 combats) in eoc [do full armor, pray, wep switches] and not to be cocky, really, really good at it.

I personally think p2p combat is crap because it comes down to moneyscape. In F2P, everyone can gain access to the same tier of armor + weps, so there is more of a mental game. With hits not being as op, combat in f2p is actually fun because you have to strategize when to use anticipation, freedom, stuns, thresholds, and ultimates [ still think the prayer smashing mechanic is bs, especially for magic]. Yea, I know halberds are superior because they have a larger hit radius.

Main reason I say knives are trash in eoc is because, if the opponent does bind stun on you, then u r gg'ed. They can move outside of the 5 space radius and sweep with gravite shortbow + gravite staff. Some might then argue to use freedom but that will lead to even more cancerous dps with vulnerability to asphy, destroy, slaughter [rapid fire is still a joke to me]. Only dual handed range wep that has longer range is the javelin, but that is tier 50 not tier 55.

Yea i made countless threads, to patch it up but people do not care. It applies to current members being able to abuse the system and use tier 75 in f2p. BTW, I was the first person in 2013 and 2014 to make the forum posts to patch up the warp.

As for the tier 1 to 40, as an ironman player I totally support including those things.

27-Jan-2017 06:16:54

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