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Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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Hi and thank you for your post

I would want to keep this thread focused on improving and utilizing existing content (except for the few additions to fill out gaps in the tier system), but I can leave a few thoughts overall:

- A medium leveled skilling hub available for free players could be a good addition, but I highly doubt Jagex will take that amount of time needed to design and implement the equivalent of a Menaphos for free players
- For the next three ideas I must admit I think a clear line drawn from f2p to p2p (t50 non-degrade, t55 degrade, t60 degrade to dust - with p2p also able to utilize lower leveled gap tiers additionally) is a good thing and it shouldn't be softened up (and especially not that extreme) - tier 90 is top tier content even for p2p and way past that what I think is intended to be achieved as free player. More content of course is always a good thing, but a top tier boss in f2p should drop tier 60 degrading at most.
- Seeing bank space I think players shouldn't hoard whatever they get their hands on, but I agree on the current bank space is too scarce. I think a combination suggestion of giving a few more spaces and freeing up space by virtualizing fitting items (as it was done with currencies, tools for the toolbelt and a few pets) could also do the trick. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

08-Jun-2017 06:02:25 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2017 06:16:34 by Rikornak

Al1189
Nov Member 2023

Al1189

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Thank you for yor fast response.

I still think the effort given by me as a higher leveled player should be rewarded somehow,i know that i dont pay for content,i have my reasons,which arent connected with lack of funds.
As for borders between lvls that should be achieved in free and memb i am astonished m the sheer amount of max or close to max players in the paying variety (in comparison to years 2005-2008). Loyalty matters to time spent too,not only money given.This is only a game,but the lack of previous community and the dropping age of players has made the Rs i remember from before far different in negative manner.Sorry for off topic.

09-Jun-2017 00:57:56

Rikornak
Oct Member 2013

Rikornak

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Hi there again

My (personal) issue with this is, you want to get content in a niche that really isn't intended to be reached by free players, but can still be done if players absolutely want to get there (I think it could be perfectly compared to true skill mastery (or even 200m xp) in p2p - which suddenly would be mandatory without offering adequate methods to get to this point - and this just would lead to frustration for non-veteran players).

My intention in here is to smoothen leveling up (unrelated to this thread I guess the mining/smithing rework will massively help for both f2p and p2p as well). Massive jumps would totally contradict it sadly (so this is why I think a f2p t60 boss would be a better endgame challenge - it could be risen further over time (but a clear border should remain intact - I wouldn't see an issue if they would suddenly introduce t62/65 for instance later - and rise)), but as I said new content is somewhat out of the scope of this thread anyway Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

09-Jun-2017 06:35:56

Kelly Br00k

Kelly Br00k

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I've come across this thread a few times before but never got to actually post for whatever odd reason. My apologies. :|

I fully support anything and everything aimed at resolving the several flaws currently present in the free game, and of course, further additions that'll help polish and/or sweeten it are also very much welcome! ^_^

21-Jun-2017 12:43:04

ThaneKrios

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Hey Rikornak, thank you for taking the time and effort in making this f2p qol, something i support.

List of things to consider:

- Allow f2p to convert p2p proteans into f2p protean items.
- Allow f2p to obtain and use Antifire potions. Great for dual wielding at KBD.
- Allow f2p to use Dragon bones or allow Bone Crusher to be f2p.
- Perhaps allow f2p to use all prayers from standard book with no membs and quest reqs.
- Create an off-hand Gud Raider Axe.

Add me for more ideas :)

26-Jun-2017 19:54:04

Rikornak
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Rikornak

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Hi and thank you for your input

That are some interesting ideas and I try to give my stance on them:

- Proteans: I am surely for a change, but I am unsure if it is technically possible allowing free players to do that with a p2p item. I'll put it on the experimental corner for now.
- Antifire potions: It is hardly possible to include them in a way they would be ironman friendly, as they're extremely deeply woven into membership. It also probably would massively devalue the clingy mole, as it currently is more interesting to use for free players than it would be for members. I think it is decent enough this time to keep them as a p2p benefit.
- Dragon bones could be a dangerous (controversial) change. I personally see them both as uneconomic and inefficient (there even are better options for balanced training) for p2p prayer training and making them available to free players could quite bump up their value. I would like to hear some other opinions first though, as I am quite sure there are players out there that will heavily oppose it.
- As I said in that thread in the combat council forums I do not even know why they're p2p only in the first place. I'll keep them in mind when I start compiling prayer changes. Maybe more opinions on that first.
- Off-hand Gud Raider Axe: I think the main-hand variant as non-standard equipment is intended to be worn with that shield. I wouldn't want to complicate the current balance situation even more without a real need (This set in its current form is quite weird already) Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

27-Jun-2017 06:13:26 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2017 06:14:47 by Rikornak

Naruto 1001

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Batwing and Carapace are now available to free players for crafting, Batwing has its crafting levels required fixed additionally. Let us tackle the tier 40 armours now! ;)
...or studded leather and perhaps access to Silvarea for amazing views and a few extra bats :D Part of the
Free Players
community.

07-Aug-2017 12:33:56

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