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Draco Burnz
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47 xp said :
I think Alt1 should be banned. I don't see people making solvers for rubix cubes and saying that it's legit.
I know it's not the best example, buy u get the idea.

Not really.

How come the only source for guides has to be the wiki?

What makes that site so special?

If alt1 cant be a helpful guide then neither can the wiki.

So I say we should have to figure things out on our own and not have and guides to help us.
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08-Jan-2022 18:42:11

SlR
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Hi 47 XP, welcome.

Draco Burnz said :

How come the only source for guides has to be the wiki? -
It doesn't have to be a WIKI, plenty of sources can teach you how to solve clue puzzles. Third-party programs which automate gameplay with on-screen clickable indicators are the issue.


What makes that site so special? -
It teaches you, it doesn't automate the cognitive side of your gameplay in real time. Wiki & Youtube can only help with static content. Alt1 specialises in solving dynamic content with AI screen capture


If alt1 cant be a helpful guide then neither can the wiki. -
Alt1 is a script, wiki is an information source. Alt1 doesn't teach you anything. I don't think they are comparable.


So I say we should have to figure things out on our own and not have and guides to help us. -
Guides are fine, computer scripts that give you a competitive advantage are not.

Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

08-Jan-2022 19:05:53 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2022 09:32:44 by SlR

Draco Burnz
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Yet it doesnt give you any "advantage" considering everyone can use it.

So the quicker you learn that the better.

The problem with the wiki though is that not everyone understands things the same way.

So while you might be able to comprehend things in written format, I on the other hand understand things better when its actually told to me what to do.

Hence why i always watch yt guides for all quests as the ingame guides are shit.

So you're pretty much saying that if ppl cbb to deal with things in written format, they cant play.

I dont see how thats fair in the slightest.
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08-Jan-2022 19:11:12

SlR
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Draco Burnz said :
Yet it doesnt give you any "advantage" considering everyone can use it. -
Anyone can download 'anything' open-source, that doesn't mean they should. A dangerous habit if you ask me. I just don't think these scripts belong on RS.


So the quicker you learn that the better. -
I'm aware.


The problem with the wiki though is that not everyone understands things the same way. -
I agree, the wiki is not for everyone, I personally like to watch youtube guides if I need help with something.


So while you might be able to comprehend things in written format, I on the other hand understand things better when its actually told to me what to do. -
Well, some pieces of content are not meant for all. High level PVM has high rewards because it is difficult or time consuming. I'm terrible at bossing but I don't look for programs to boss for me. I go after something that matches my skill level. Players VS players, not players VS scripts, please.


Hence why i always watch yt guides for all quests as the ingame guides are shit. -
I don't see an issue with this, sometimes we need to be pointed in the right direction. You cannot be comparing players needing quest help with Alt1 clue farming, surely?


So you're pretty much saying that if ppl cbb to deal with things in written format, they cant play. -
There's plenty of content for people to enjoy on Runescape, not all of it is for everyone, but it's the same in any other game. Consider it a meritocracy of sorts, not everyone can be Zezima.


I dont see how thats fair in the slightest. -
There are ways to bypass these things, buy a puzzle skipping ticket (2m is a fair price for a 2b possible reward). If you don't wish to spend time solving your puzzle, that is on you and no one else. It takes as long as it takes. We're only human. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, etc.
Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

08-Jan-2022 19:27:42 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2022 09:36:55 by SlR

Draco Burnz
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Once again, why must ppl be forced to pay to complete something they arent good at?

What happened to the game being about choice?

You just keep proving its your way or the highway, sorry but thats not how it works around here.

Ppl are allowed to play the game however they see fit as long as jagex says its ok.

So far jagex hasnt done anything about this thus its ok in their book. You dont make the rules they do.
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08-Jan-2022 20:00:49

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I'm probably not the best person to speak to about this but, i'll just share my opinion.

Alt 1 feels like it's going in the direction of old skool. And i lost all interest in old skool early in because how it feels more of a private server side of RS. All kinds of plugins to make the game easier and faster while at the same time complaining about RS3 and how it's EZ scape.
It's got to the point of if u don't have the specific plugins on old skool, then ur missing out.
This i personally believe will drive away a lot of casual player to RS3 and old skool.
(I do 100% admit RS3 is very fast in xp gains. I still play on main but more focused on iron)

To me personally, it's the clue solving part i dislike the most. My friend showed it to me a long time ago and it felt like it was cheating.

Like SLR said. Some things are just not for everyone, but if people put in the effort and time, what was once difficult / time consuming becomes easier over time.
I like the idea of clues being a skill check.

08-Jan-2022 20:10:24

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Nobody is being forced to do anything. There are plenty of choices available. I'm just expressing my point of view on this topic. You are expressing yours. It's all good. I don't make the rules and I don't claim to. This is merely a suggestion thread.

I'm signing out for the evening, take care :) Bob says:
A bank PIN will keep your items secure.
Always check the second trade screen.
Never trade in the Wilderness!
Keep your computer keylogger-free and virus scanned.
Never give your password out to anyone.

08-Jan-2022 20:14:30

Draco Burnz
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SlR said :
Nobody is being forced to do anything. There are plenty of choices available. I'm just expressing my point of view on this topic. You are expressing yours. It's all good. I don't make the rules and I don't claim to. This is merely a suggestion thread.


Nope youve said all this thread that if ppl cant complete puzzles in clues the only choice they have to is buy skip tickets.

What if ppl dont want to buy skips though as they are expensive?

You havent given any other alternative.

So what you're saying is that if ppl cbb to buy tickets, they shouldnt do clues thus "forcing" them to buy tickets.

With ALt1 theres another way for ppl to do clues that dont want to waste money on something thats hardly ever profitable.
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08-Jan-2022 20:24:30 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2022 20:25:09 by Draco Burnz

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47 xp said :

Like SLR said. Some things are just not for everyone, but if people put in the effort and time, what was once difficult / time consuming becomes easier over time.
I like the idea of clues being a skill check.

Love how thats the only point thats been bought up recently, "somethings arent for everyone".

While that might be true for the most part, what if ppl want to try new things?

Why should they be limited on how they can access said content?

Plus a great many sites have tried and all have failed to teach me what Alt1 succeeded in doing at the very start.

So no, for me at least thre wasnt any "getting better over time" as word based instructions dont work well with me.
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08-Jan-2022 20:29:15

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