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Draco Burnz
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PiraBob said :
It already is illegal as per the rules, Jagex just doesn't enforce it for whatever reason. Maybe they're scared of making cheaters unhappy or w/e.

No if it was truly against the rules, theyd have to ban RL and every 3PC for osrs too as they fall under the same umbrella.

So unless they want to literally kill off osrs, none of this is ever happening.
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06-Jan-2022 21:40:31

Takru
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i did not know this was a thing but i am against banning this I have a reason 1 not everyone is smart enough to solve them (i am in that list) and with puzzle skips costing so much the reward 99% of the time is less then what we spend i think Jagex needs a better way for the no so smart players to do clues without blowing a hole in our pockets
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06-Jan-2022 23:46:36 - Last edited on 06-Jan-2022 23:47:17 by Takru

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as for me i am a downvote on this matter my reason has already been posted 13cat1 is also a downvote for the same reason as i posted before
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06-Jan-2022 23:57:20 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2022 00:02:30 by Takru

Draco Burnz
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Takru said :
i did not know this was a thing but i am against banning this I have a reason 1 not everyone is smart enough to solve them (i am in that list) and with puzzle skips costing so much the reward 99% of the time is less then what we spend i think Jagex needs a better way for the no so smart players to do clues without blowing a hole in our pockets


Agreed.

Love how ppl that are against alt1 think everyone should use skip tickets or dont do clues at all.

Sorry but this is a game of choice after all so i should have the choice to do clues but not have to spend my hard earned gps just to complete some of them.

I mean with alt1, it gets a lot more ppl into doing clues thus the clue community expands, and isnt that a good thing?
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07-Jan-2022 00:39:21

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alt1 is basically a chrome browser with a bunch of tabs you can open up that sit on top of runescape game. Browsers dont automatically solve puzzles and highlights where to click .

Its cheating, ban people who use it, end of.
well the clue solver is actually just javascript running on a browser. so actually they do do this. you can open the clue solver url manually and if you provide it the same image that alt1 grabs from the runescape game window it will solve it in your browser.

that is also why i think this is kind of a fruitless concern. even if jagex were to ban alt1, i can always take a screenshot of my game screen, and just paste that screenshot into a browser window where the solver is running and do the same thing. the only difference is it will not overlay the screen. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

07-Jan-2022 16:45:52 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2022 16:47:03 by Immortalized

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Immortalized said :

Oversimplifying with 'just' 'only' 'merely' 'barely' 'hardly' etc. might make it easier to attack an argument (by removing important nuances) but you can't purport to have disproven it in it's entirety without responding to the rest of the discourse.

That said... "you can open the clue solver url manually and if you provide it the same image that alt1 grabs from the Runescape game window it will solve it in your browser." True. You can. But is that really the same thing as a dedicated program that does it with 1 click within your Runescape client? or on-top-of it / with click-through transparency (same effect).

Draco Burnz said :

I mean with alt1, it gets a lot more ppl into doing clues thus the clue community expands, and isnt that a good thing?
My abridged response would be: 'compared to what' ? but yeah, I guess so, the lax approach with Alt1 has lead to more clue hunters. It is lucrative after all... But does that not affect the game economy/others via use of AI / computer aid ? This is what I'm trying to get at. I'm not having a go at you by the way, I'm just trying to see the 'moral' side of things...

Plus, part of me feels like 'why bother wasting my time playing this game honestly, if others can bypass a bunch of hours (or days) to get where I got, playing it how it was supposed to be played'. And 'if they aren't bothered about it now, what about in the future, what other third-party programs will come out to devalue the time I've put into this game'. You know?

If they're going to allow programs like these (by omission) they ought to state it (imo).

Show your cards. If people quit because you've allowed it, so be it. If people quit because you've denounced it, so be it. This is the year for transparency. A fair request?

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07-Jan-2022 18:17:17 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2022 10:53:52 by SlR

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SlR said :


Plus, part of me feels like 'why bother wasting my time playing this game honestly, if others can bypass a bunch of hours (or days) to get where I got, playing it how it was supposed to be played'. And 'if they aren't bothered about it now, what about in the future, what other third-party programs will come out to devalue the time I've put into this game'. You know?



Why should it matter how others play the game as it doesnt effect you in the slightest?

Just play the game how you want to play it and let everyone else do the same. So you're pretty much saying if ppl dont play the game exactly how youve played it, they shouldnt be allowed to at all. Hardly see that as fair.

Once again, Runescape is all about choice thus let ppl choose how they want to play.

As long as it isnt against the rules of course.

Plus this is like saying since i dislike questing, other ppl shouldnt be allowed to quest.

Also, im sure jagex of course knows where the draw the line so its best not to worry about something thats out of your control. AKA the future and what jagex does/doesnt do.
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07-Jan-2022 22:18:05 - Last edited on 07-Jan-2022 22:19:47 by Draco Burnz

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the way i see this is elite and master clues have such low payouts it's not funny. now I am someone who can not do puzzles so a skip cost me between 2m to 3m per skip I may get 3 or even 4 puzzles that clue at the end i lose several million per clue scroll or if I am lucky i will break even
why complain about something that helps players it's no different than using the wiki or the website that gives you the true price of items or even the website's G.E guide or hell even quest guides on youtube look at it this way the reward pool is so diluted you get nothing good regardless of Alt1 or buying skips



(note I am someone who has done lots of clues and has been playing this game since I was 13 reverse the numbers that how old I will be this year)
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08-Jan-2022 00:53:09

Draco Burnz
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Takru said :
the way i see this is elite and master clues have such low payouts it's not funny. now I am someone who can not do puzzles so a skip cost me between 2m to 3m per skip I may get 3 or even 4 puzzles that clue at the end i lose several million per clue scroll or if I am lucky i will break even

why complain about something that helps players it's no different than using the wiki or the website that gives you the true price of items or even the website's G.E guide or hell even quest guides on youtube look at it this way the reward pool is so diluted you get nothing good regardless of Alt1 or buying skips




Agreed.

Theres literally 0 difference between this and wiki and ppl just need to deal with the fact there doesnt always have to be only 1 source fdor helpful guides.

Theres nothing stating there has to be so Alt1 has every right to exist.
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08-Jan-2022 01:52:41 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2022 01:53:10 by Draco Burnz

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