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RichKngMidas

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Chris1 said :
lol gp comes into the game everyday thru TH. the fact that both gp and rares were duped and now confirmed is way worse for rare prices than gp.

Not true. It was mostly shards that were dupped. They threw that gp into rares, which is why all the prices have exploded these last few weeks. If was the other way around, and a massive new supply of rares, they would have gone down in price, not up.

Jagex has been banning accounts involved in this dupe, so think, if they ban all these accounts, and don't reintroduce the items on the GE, that positions rares to become even more scarce. I think rares are in a pretty good position still. I wouldn't want to be holding GP right now, though.

But on that note: RIP Yellow partyhat/Christmas crackers. I'm known as Rich King Midas, and when you look at me, you'll see a king who knows a thing about his treasury. I never cared for women. I've never cared for wine. But when I count a large amount of money - ha ha - it's divine!

16-Jun-2020 18:08:58

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2016

Silly Moo

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16-Jun-2020 18:10:18 - Last edited on 16-Jun-2020 18:11:17 by Silly Moo

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2019

Habitat

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Quote too long, but @G0d vs D3vil:

"What about to make system which one tracks how much gp comes to the game e.g. every 1h and if the dupe would arrive would send flags to them imidetly for e.g to phone or some1 whos working that time i hope there is some1 24/7 at office alive."

It would be tricky because of all the variables factored into that. Since drops are RNG based and TH keys. Part of the problem is the game has become massive and things have been changed/added throughout years. They would have to go back and rewrite a ton of stuff to implement something like that. Discontinued items should be easy to prevent duplication, which it seems like it might have been. Gold though.. is added to the game in tons of different ways.

They could maybe track individual user wealth gains every hour as well as trades. There will likely always be ways around any type of filter like that though.

16-Jun-2020 18:14:12

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2015

Tenebri

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Tuffty they just confirmed the dupe on reddit fyi

as was posted on wrong forum im responding here

they didnt confirm the items. thats the main thing right now. we already know dupes happened. but with what is the main question

if just shards. or with rares etc etc etc
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16-Jun-2020 18:14:56

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2016

I Lack Heart

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AEIOwnedU said :
The dupe happened around May 30th, 3 weeks have passed by and Runescape had more of the chance to control the duping of 'items' but not GP. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard to track items compared to GP. The reason why Santa's have been going up during the past 3 weeks.

Why did Santa's go so high to 1.7-1.8bill when it was recently 1bill? More money went into the game, thus increasing purchasing power.

#1 theory: Dupers have been buying out "AUTHENTIC" Santa hats to hoard while making it look like merchants are increasing it.

#2 theory: Dupers have been buying "Authentic" Santa hats to make it harder to track the duped GP, making it harder to track the trillions that have entered Runescape.

#3 Theory: after the hoarding of Santa hats by the Dupers, the purchaser will be banned, thus losing the Santa hats and making Hats rarer.

Any more theories ?
Well 'rarer' in the sense of word that its no longer available but even if they managed to hoard thousands of santas it doesnt affect much to santas rarity status. one of only rares ive seen big stacks of, remember time when one person collected 10k santas and couldnt drive the price past green hween, then she got hacked if i remember correctly. anyone know or remember her name?

16-Jun-2020 18:18:04

AEIOwnedU

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16-Jun-2020 18:19:19

Dec

2010

G0d vs D3vil

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Habitat said :
Quote too long, but @G0d vs D3vil:

"What about to make system which one tracks how much gp comes to the game e.g. every 1h and if the dupe would arrive would send flags to them imidetly for e.g to phone or some1 whos working that time i hope there is some1 24/7 at office alive."

It would be tricky because of all the variables factored into that. Since drops are RNG based and TH keys. Part of the problem is the game has become massive and things have been changed/added throughout years. They would have to go back and rewrite a ton of stuff to implement something like that. Discontinued items should be easy to prevent duplication, which it seems like it might have been. Gold though.. is added to the game in tons of different ways.

They could maybe track individual user wealth gains every hour as well as trades. There will likely always be ways around any type of filter like that though. was meaning to track gold and shards for sure they can see the average day to day how much coming in to game so for sure they could make system which1 would give red flags that bills starting to come in to game

16-Jun-2020 18:22:41

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2012

le me

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I Lack Heart said :
AEIOwnedU said :
The dupe happened around May 30th, 3 weeks have passed by and Runescape had more of the chance to control the duping of 'items' but not GP. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard to track items compared to GP. The reason why Santa's have been going up during the past 3 weeks.

Why did Santa's go so high to 1.7-1.8bill when it was recently 1bill? More money went into the game, thus increasing purchasing power.

#1 theory: Dupers have been buying out "AUTHENTIC" Santa hats to hoard while making it look like merchants are increasing it.

#2 theory: Dupers have been buying "Authentic" Santa hats to make it harder to track the duped GP, making it harder to track the trillions that have entered Runescape.

#3 Theory: after the hoarding of Santa hats by the Dupers, the purchaser will be banned, thus losing the Santa hats and making Hats rarer.

Any more theories ?
Well 'rarer' in the sense of word that its no longer available but even if they managed to hoard thousands of santas it doesnt affect much to santas rarity status. one of only rares ive seen big stacks of, remember time when one person collected 10k santas and couldnt drive the price past green hween, then she got hacked if i remember correctly. anyone know or remember her name?

1k santas though or around there

16-Jun-2020 18:23:03

Dec

2010

G0d vs D3vil

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I Lack Heart said :
AEIOwnedU said :
The dupe happened around May 30th, 3 weeks have passed by and Runescape had more of the chance to control the duping of 'items' but not GP. I'm sure it shouldn't be hard to track items compared to GP. The reason why Santa's have been going up during the past 3 weeks.

Why did Santa's go so high to 1.7-1.8bill when it was recently 1bill? More money went into the game, thus increasing purchasing power.

#1 theory: Dupers have been buying out "AUTHENTIC" Santa hats to hoard while making it look like merchants are increasing it.

#2 theory: Dupers have been buying "Authentic" Santa hats to make it harder to track the duped GP, making it harder to track the trillions that have entered Runescape.

#3 Theory: after the hoarding of Santa hats by the Dupers, the purchaser will be banned, thus losing the Santa hats and making Hats rarer.

Any more theories ?
Well 'rarer' in the sense of word that its no longer available but even if they managed to hoard thousands of santas it doesnt affect much to santas rarity status. one of only rares ive seen big stacks of, remember time when one person collected 10k santas and couldnt drive the price past green hween, then she got hacked if i remember correctly. anyone know or remember her name? 1k and there is santas 60k? Since they said black santas 1/6 red santas and some1 was calculating drop rate was supose to be around 10k black ones

16-Jun-2020 18:24:42

amZor

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Habitat said :
Richie B5 said :
We should all keep in mind that it may not be straightforward to implement item count alerts in Runescript. It might be. But it might not. External integration with other programming languages might also not be easy to do. Though they do have the ability to track volume changes as shown by the Grand Exchange tracker. This may not extend to P2P trades though.

I did not think we would still be having issues like this in game but it appears these things will continue to crop up from time to time. I do remember noticing trouble logging in several times a few weeks ago, possibly caused by the dupers. It will be interesting to hear Jagex's response to the issue.

Disclaimer: Not a programmer. Just a little experience with C++ in college.

I'm a full time programmer and it would be fairly easy to implement item count triggers in database queries. Party hats are the only discontinued that can be "created" - they can alter db tables to reject new items being added (for cracker, masks, santa, etc.) When a cracker gets pulled, they could easily add a check to verify the item is actually a cracker.. before "creating" a new party hat.

I would think they have this in place ever since the pink party hat situation, which is why i'm skeptical about any rares being duped. Gold/shards.. are constantly "created" on the fly, which seems much more likely to have potential exploits.

Everything else makes sense.. large amounts of cash buying up rares to hold the duped gold/shards would easily cause 100% ge price increases.

Programmer aswell. My point exactly. They must have triggers for when rare items enter the game. Since cracker is the only item possible to make new items enter the game it should be monitored. It's not really that hard for the DB responsible team to create.

16-Jun-2020 18:46:23

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