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God Drakan

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Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

08-Jun-2021 22:16:13 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2021 22:19:59 by God Drakan

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Dilbert2001

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The universe definitely contains Erebus and shadow anima. I seriously doubt any of the Elder Gods created Erebus and shadow anima, as well as they could consume shadow anima in the Great Revision and recreate it and Erebus.

08-Jun-2021 22:25:08

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Everyone, let's PLEASE keep this thread on the topic it's intended to discuss going forward, and not keep turning this thread into arguments about other lore or personal arguments. There have already been a few warnings in this thread about this, let's please try and reign it in going forward. Community Manager for Jagex

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08-Jun-2021 22:42:09

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Xalha

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CM Nick said :
Everyone, let's PLEASE keep this thread on the topic it's intended to discuss going forward, and not keep turning this thread into arguments about other lore or personal arguments. There have already been a few warnings in this thread about this, let's please try and reign it in going forward.

I would consider discussions about Xau-Tak and anima and the Elder Gods extremely relevant to the current topic, given that's the entire focus of the Erebus storyline.

08-Jun-2021 22:47:38

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Xalha

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God Drakan said :
Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

To be fair Zaros does mention in Battle of the Monolith about bringing an offering for the 'rulers' of Erebus.

08-Jun-2021 22:51:14

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Dilbert2001

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Xalha said :
God Drakan said :
Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

To be fair Zaros does mention in Battle of the Monolith about bringing an offering for the 'rulers' of Erebus.

Xau-Tak has probably requested similar offering from Bilrach in the Fremmenik's Saga - Nadir already. Eventually Bilrach took the ritual marker and sacrificed a creature from Fresnake for the ritual, but it failed.

Likewise, it is quite logical Zaros is doing the same for Xau-Tak to free him from Erebus now.

08-Jun-2021 23:02:24

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Xalha

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Dilbert2001 said :
Xalha said :
God Drakan said :
Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

To be fair Zaros does mention in Battle of the Monolith about bringing an offering for the 'rulers' of Erebus.

Xau-Tak has probably requested similar offering from Bilrach in the Fremmenik's Saga - Nadir already. Eventually Bilrach took the ritual marker and sacrificed a creature from Fresnake for the ritual, but it failed.

Likewise, it is quite logical Zaros is doing the same for Xau-Tak to free him from Erebus now.

It's been confirmed since Battle of Lumbridge that Zamorak was beyond Floor 61 and was whom Bilrach and Moia were attempting to reach. It's not Xau-Tak.

This is why Zamorak's base during Dishonor among Thieves is at the bottom of Daemonheim.

08-Jun-2021 23:06:34

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Dilbert2001

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Xalha said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Xalha said :
God Drakan said :
Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

To be fair Zaros does mention in Battle of the Monolith about bringing an offering for the 'rulers' of Erebus.

Xau-Tak has probably requested similar offering from Bilrach in the Fremmenik's Saga - Nadir already. Eventually Bilrach took the ritual marker and sacrificed a creature from Fresnake for the ritual, but it failed.

Likewise, it is quite logical Zaros is doing the same for Xau-Tak to free him from Erebus now.

It's been confirmed since Battle of Lumbridge that Zamorak was beyond Floor 61 and was whom Bilrach and Moia were attempting to reach. It's not Xau-Tak.

This is why Zamorak's base during Dishonor among Thieves is at the bottom of Daemonheim.

Really? Where can I find the lore? And where is the Rift and floor 61?

During the Halloween Event "Til Death Do Us Apart it is quite obvious the Black Hand was trying to break through the Rift with Moia involved while brining out a lot of Daemonheim creatures. I just to point all all indications point to the Xau-Tak is related to Moia and Daemonheim. If you don't think so, it is OK.

Anyway, what else do you think a supposedly very powerful ruler of Erebus will take as an offer if not somebody like a sacrificial lamb? I'll think a highly powerful being may be needed, or perhaps Mah's Core will do the trick too.

08-Jun-2021 23:15:05 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2021 23:27:11 by Dilbert2001

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Xalha

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God Drakan said :

Really? Where can I find the lore? And where is the Rift and floor 61?

During the Halloween Event "Til Death Do Us Apart it is quite obvious the Black Hand was trying to break through the Rift with Moia involved while brining out a lot of Daemonheim creatures. I just to point all all indications point to the Xau-Tak is related to Moia and Daemonheim. If you don't think so, it is OK.

You may actually be correct about Xau-Tak being beyond the Rift, and he may have access to Daemonheim and it’s creatures, but it was specifically Zamorak who Moia and Bilrach immediately found.

Bilrach can be spoken to about his experiences after Children of Mah but a good bit of info on it is here:
https://runescape.wiki/w/The_Rift
The Rift as it stands seems to literally just be the interdimensional portal on Floor 61. There seems to be more beyond that too according to Bilrach - perhaps the Rift is another way into Erebus? That could be where Zamorak was stranded. But yeah, Moia and Bilrach entered the portal in Floor 61 and found Zamorak which led to his resurgence during the Battle of Lumbridge with Moia.

08-Jun-2021 23:22:54

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Xalha

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Dilbert2001 said :
Xalha said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Xalha said :
God Drakan said :
Yes they create anima by creating the universe over and over again. There is also no indication that Erebus is ruled by anyone or anything, nor that that entity is the one generating the shadow anima.

To be fair Zaros does mention in Battle of the Monolith about bringing an offering for the 'rulers' of Erebus.

Xau-Tak has probably requested similar offering from Bilrach in the Fremmenik's Saga - Nadir already. Eventually Bilrach took the ritual marker and sacrificed a creature from Fresnake for the ritual, but it failed.

Likewise, it is quite logical Zaros is doing the same for Xau-Tak to free him from Erebus now.

It's been confirmed since Battle of Lumbridge that Zamorak was beyond Floor 61 and was whom Bilrach and Moia were attempting to reach. It's not Xau-Tak.

This is why Zamorak's base during Dishonor among Thieves is at the bottom of Daemonheim.
Really? Where can I find the lore? And where is the Rift and floor 61?

During the Halloween Event "Til Death Do Us Apart it is quite obvious the Black Hand was trying to break through the Rift with Moia involved while brining out a lot of Daemonheim creatures. I just to point all all indications point to the Xau-Tak is related to Moia and Daemonheim. If you don't think so, it is OK.

Anyway, what else do you think a supposedly very powerful ruler of Erebus will take as an offer if not somebody like a sacrificial lamb? I'll think a highly powerful being may be needed, or perhaps Mah's Core will do the trick too.
I think you're absolutely right with saying Mah's Core will be the offering. If there was anything the ruler of Erebus would want, it would definitely be what's basically the heart of an Elder God. There's no telling what kind of damage they could do.

08-Jun-2021 23:22:56 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2021 23:30:31 by Xalha

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